From loop to track

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  1. Meiosis

    Meiosis Member

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    Hi there...

    I'm looking for a few pointers how to take a nice few bars into a full track. Lately I can come to a nice few bars of stuff then I try to extend the flow, I just end up with boring stuff.

    Any ideas ?

    examples



     
  2. mr meh

    mr meh Well-Known Member

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    ok so if you've already got 16 bars then copy and paste that three times so you got 64 bars

    first 16 bars - keep as is

    second 16 bars - keep the same but this time add in some new percussion (cymbal, hat, hi pass break....etc)

    third 16 bars - start stripping back some sounds but add in a arp or melody or something

    fourth 16 bars - low pass your bass to sub and add in your intro sounds ready to come into the bridge

    also switch up the drum pattern and/or add in a new bass sound at the end each 16 bar section and thats your drop done lol!


    obviously you dont have to follow this everytime :) but should give you a rough idea of how to build a tune out of a loop

    just listen to tunes you like to get ideas of what to do (y)
     
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  3. Meiosis

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    usefull tips mr meh! thnx!
     
  4. Meiosis

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    anyone got more tips and pointers ? :)
     
  5. JReilly

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    You could use a reference track.

    Drag a tune into your DAW that is similar to the sort vibe you are after and a similar amount of sounds etc…

    Mark out where new elements come in and drop out, you could use empty midi regions, then replace the midi regions with yours stuff.

    Another technique is to copy your loop across to fill up as much time as you want you track to last. Then subtract parts to suit the section. For example, the intro wouldn’t have the bassline playing (usually) and no big lead sounds or anything that is best suited for the main part of the track.

    Just make sure there is a progression. It’s all about building tension with a big release when the drop comes in. Slice up sections from your existing loop and tease them in during the build up. This helps create the tension.

    The best advice you can get is to listen to music. Not just putting music on while your playing computer games and shit, actually sit down and pay attention to the how the track develops, how it transitions from one section to another etc… Grab a pen, some paper, roll some reefer and focus on the fine details of what makes the track a whole body of work rather than a bunch of loops.

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    Yeezus be praised!
     
  7. DNB4DCrowd

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    Those examples are far from boring. Your getting some greatly helpful advise but I just thought Id say your music sounds great.
     
  8. Dark Lizardro

    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    You don't just listen to someone's music and simple tell them "It's boring.", man. C'mon, help the guy out! Meaningful feedback!


    To the OP: the first track is pretty good balanced, I mean, mix wise. But you can turn things out more interesting by adding some percussion elements here and there, and changing the drum hits from time to time. For example, you pic that 8 bar loop, paste it four times in "whatever your DAW calls it", where you arrange the things. Pick the last loop and experiment by changing the snare with the kick, or a combination of snare hits, or even consider snapping a drum fill. As this part seems more energetic, you can use it as the verse, or even the chorus of the song.

    The second track follows tha same lines as the first, but I'd give a look more into the sounds itself. It may be my taste, but I like kicks that are pretty punchy, and maybe you can make it like that. NY Compression can do that for you.
     
  9. Whoismakro

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    The glitch hop producer 'Ill gates' has a really useful segment about this exact thing (arrangement) in his ill methodology workshop. It's really helped me grow as a producer and I would highly recommend it if you want to take your music to the next level. You can find it here www.illmethodology.com hope this helps bud!
     
  10. DNB4DCrowd

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    Wow...lol...just wow.
     
  11. Dark Lizardro

    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    Could you elucidate a little more?
     
  12. IV4

    IV4 Currently a newt.

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    He is not a producer Ysidro. Just a very excited dnb fan.
     
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    I think he was actually complementing the dude!
     
  14. RUSSLA

    RUSSLA DNBF Monarch

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    Yeah you read his post totally wrong here dude..
     
  15. Mania

    Mania i fukin wot m8

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    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    Well, OP was asking for ideas to turn his 8 bar loops into full songs, wasn't he? I guess "Your music is boring" isn't the best way to help him with this.

    Also, commas.
     
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    Bro, I think you should go and re-read his comment a few times....
     
  18. RUSSLA

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    ^ yeh seriously read his post again darky lol
     
  19. Mania

    Mania i fukin wot m8

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