Frequency Shifting

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  1. Freezz

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    I've seen a tutorial on the internet where a guy puts a frequency shifter on his master to make it sound nice & phat... Any of you guys have experience with the frequency shifter?
     
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    Hmmm...not exactly sure what a frequency shifter is to be honest. Are you sure it wasn't a frequency/harmonic exciter? If you could post a link to the vid, that would be a huge help.

    Cheers.
     
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    Uhbik-S is a Frequency Shifter, but I haven't a clue how to use it...
     
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    I'm pretty sure its not a frequency shifter.
    Its like a form of ring modulation.
    If it is I dunno why you would put it on a Master channel strip
     
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    There are only two software frequency shifter plugs that I can find. Things I read said it can amplify things but mangles the audio among loads of other very unwated effects on a master bus. I think your thinking of a Harmonic Exciter. Could be wrong apparently they are making a comeback.
     
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    i'll try and look for the youtube video again, but it was ableton's built-in frequency shifter that he put on his master!
     
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    Seriously mate, I wouldn't rely on a tutorial. I'm not sure what the ableton shifter is like but I don't think i'd ever put a modulation effect on a master channel.
    Anyone can make a tutorial. Not all tutorials are right.

    Try and work on the mix first if you can't get it loud without adding dynamics processors to the master. A lot of the time its simple things that create peaks like hi hats when they have a kick underneath. If I can't get them to play simultaneously without creating a peak I'll either EQ them so that they fit together or apply dynamics processing to the bus they are send to. If this isn't practical I'll create a small fade on the hi hat which usually does the trick and allows me to have a louder drum mix.
     
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    What a coincidence :) i just had that problem with a hihat and a kick! thanks for the tip
     
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    Another alternative would be putting an all-pass filter on the drum bus. Or, do it the hard way and zoom in on your hats/cymbals/high-end and move things just very slightly out of phase, would accomplish a very similar effect to an all-pass filter.
     
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    From the Uhbik-S docs:

    So they at least think it's a Frequency Shifter?
    Being similar to chorus/phaser would probably lend to using to make something sound phat I guess? I still don't get using a phaser to do this so beats me!
     
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    Frequency shifting and ring modulation can be used to add a metallic overtone to a sound. Similar effects can be achieved with FM as well
     
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    Its cool. bro. Go forth and multiply