plus the fact that they came up defeated in a series of wars prior to this.
ie napoleonic wars
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i think u need to read up on those wars, the french pretty much ripped through europe and north africa for 20 odd years, napolean was a great tactician but everyone has their watergate
No i'm fully aware of how successful napoleon was, what i'm trying to get at is the idea that in this case the french did eventually lose. and have to cede land that theyd conquered back. Maybe that was a bad example of the surrendering thing, but people when thinking of the french will go, oh agincourt, crecy, waterloo, ww2 etc (ww1 is often conveniently forgotten were the french didn't surrender at all)
About the two finger thing that was supposedly an archers thing during the 100 years war (or around that period). Any archers the french captured they apparently chopped the two fingers off that were used for drawing. thus when they encountered each other british archers supposedly gave them the 'V' to indicate that they still had both fingers there.