French white flag

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  1. Busdriver

    Busdriver Member

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    Hey guys,

    was wondering where does the french white flag thing comes from.
    For some years, french are taunted around the interwebz about being surrendering fags and i really don't get it.
    Does it comes from the Iraq war?
     
  2. herojuana

    herojuana hairy kuala

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    go to google, type french military victories and hit "i'm feeling lucky"
     
  3. Busdriver

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    Erf....that's what it's all about?
    Funny tho.
     
  4. Jwood27

    Jwood27 VICTIM

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    It mainly stems from the second world war i think. It was claimed that the french surrendered to the germans so that the "beautiful city of Paris would be spared".
    Then a series of defeats in subsequent wars (in indo-china and vietnam etc) lead to this perception.

    plus the fact that they came up defeated in a series of wars prior to this.
    ie napoleonic wars

    i think anyway, its a relatively general thing though
     
  5. Busdriver

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    Ok.
    Funny, cause French people have been great warriors in many battles and great conquerors too.
    Thanks
     
  6. dnbkingz

    dnbkingz bollocks

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    Christ sake..
     
  7. Lasbike

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    I think Napoléon had a pretty nice empire back in the beginning of 19th century, no ?

    Now about the white flag, it's way older than the Irak War II. About the Irak war II, it's just Jacques Chirac (french president at the time) who didn't want to go to war, cause he wasn't cool with the idea of "helping american get oil & stuf"
     
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  8. ONSLAUGHT88

    ONSLAUGHT88 I sees ya I do I sees ya

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    unlucky mate ;) we have bad teeth and the queen though
     
  9. Busdriver

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    hehe guess you are right. evey nation has its bad reputation. not necessary true at all.
    I don't care about the french reputation even more in military domain. i was just curious.
     
  10. dnbkingz

    dnbkingz bollocks

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    Can you throw me over a pack of cutters choice please.
    And some cheap plonk.

    bonne journée...btw
     
  11. Blurr

    Blurr Wasted Selection

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    the old flag before the revolution was white with fleur de lis all over it, was added to the blue and red of the paris revolutionaries

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    i think u need to read up on those wars, the french pretty much ripped through europe and north africa for 20 odd years, napolean was a great tactician but everyone has their watergate
     
  12. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    get francois in here. hes a french duke. he lays around in a hammock all day eating soft cheese. he'll let you all know.
     
  13. Moskit

    Moskit :rodigan: Staff Member

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    You seem alright for a Frenchie.
     
  14. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    whilst on the subject, check the background story to why showing two fingers to someone is offensive. another one of those french-english hot topics.
     
  15. ThePapa

    ThePapa Suffragette City..

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    Agincourt was more of a civil war than anything else...they're our brothers really.

    Salute Busman!

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    Went to a wedding in Normandie last summer...they looked well English! The women had bingo wings and everything!
     
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    ONSLAUGHT88 I sees ya I do I sees ya

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    V for Victory
     
  17. Thin and crispy

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    wasn't it a archers way of saying he could still fire his arrows?
     
  18. Jwood27

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    No i'm fully aware of how successful napoleon was, what i'm trying to get at is the idea that in this case the french did eventually lose. and have to cede land that theyd conquered back. Maybe that was a bad example of the surrendering thing, but people when thinking of the french will go, oh agincourt, crecy, waterloo, ww2 etc (ww1 is often conveniently forgotten were the french didn't surrender at all)

    About the two finger thing that was supposedly an archers thing during the 100 years war (or around that period). Any archers the french captured they apparently chopped the two fingers off that were used for drawing. thus when they encountered each other british archers supposedly gave them the 'V' to indicate that they still had both fingers there.
    etc
     
  19. CRoOK

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    dont forget the mass mutinees though. the point is that the french have never won a battle that mattered
     
  20. ThePapa

    ThePapa Suffragette City..

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    Where would we be without this?

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    Camenbert matters!
     
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