When I first started producing I used straight presets as sounds, then when I became more confident started adapting them slightly to my liking, but I always felt like it was cheating using sounds that were probably made by some 50 year old German sound engineer. I eventually learnt how to use all the Reason devices, but then moved onto Ableton, so spent a long time learning trying to figure out synthesis in general, in the hope that I could use any VST or synth. I now try to start patches from scratch and aim for a sound I want rather than just scrolling through til I find something that sounds good. Takes about 5 times as long, but I feel a lot more involved in making a tune. Now am concentrating on making full beats from scratch rather than chopping up premade breaks Anyone else feel this when using presets, or is it just me?