Fattening Up Sine Waves

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  1. Stadia

    Stadia New Member

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    I recently made up a synth from layering up 4 sine waves in albino 3. I'm pretty happy with how its sounding at this stage, and i guess the best example of what it sounds similar to is the synth that come in at around 0:50 of this tune.



    Now, being made up of sine waves, Im struggling in getting it to sit loud enough in the mix without distorting. It seems the bass and drums are cluttering it up and when i do crank it up, it starts distorting.

    So my questions being..
    How does one fatten up sine waves with distorting?

    What are some of the techniques used in the tune above to fatten up that synth?

    Big thanks in advance
     
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  2. Howitzer

    Howitzer Active Member

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    Its not fattening up the synth per-se, but why dont you try sidechaining your kick into the b-line. This'll allow you to push the volume of the bass harder without distortion being introduced from the added bass of the kick.
    You could also try EQ'ing the sub freq's out of your kick to give the bassline more sonic space.
     
  3. JReilly

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    The simplest way would be to turn everything else down.

    But if it is fatness you are after maybe try somthing like Sausage fattner or another plug in similar.
     
  4. lostnthesound

    lostnthesound Burns Easily in the Sun

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    Sausage Fattener is outstanding, will definitely fatten up those raw sin waves.
     
  5. mr meh

    mr meh Well-Known Member

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    Sausage Fattener is sick, I've been using it on everything since I got it lol. And its only £20 too!
     
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    Harmonic excitement on the sub freqs, another layer one octave up and hipassed, limit to fuck!!
     
  7. Defect

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    Push the sound wider in the stereo field with a delay, or voxengo stereo touch if your not comfortable doing it with a normal delay plug. This will give it its own space in the mix or something blah blah fuckit i dont know what im talking about. Edited for the third time. i think my brain has finally given up on me after last night. Im going into hibernation
     
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  8. JReilly

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    funniest thing i've read all week.
     
  10. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    Dont go widening sine wave subs, its a recipe for disaster!
     
  11. Defect

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    'I recently made up a synth from layering up 4 sine waves in albino 3'

    I thought it was that synth sound that comes in solo just after 0.50..

    Jeez man im not going to tell someone to widen a sub o_0 ... am i really making myself look that bad?!


    You cant tell anymore because i edited my post, but what happened was...
    My first post i was giving advice very specific to that song. Then in a slightly more coherant state the next day i realised it was actually a truth track that he was using as an example so half my post became irrelevant. I tried to correct it to make it more general but as you can tell started getting fustrated with the fact that i still couldnt think straight so just left it at that.
     
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  12. sonic72

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    If I layer a sub bass one octave up, I sometimes get cancellation? Anyone know why that is?
     
  13. Riisu

    Riisu Not the Preacher Man

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    Different waves lengths going in and out of phase with each other. Also if you've applied different processing on each layer it'll cause issues as well.
     
  14. Rajstah Vibe

    Rajstah Vibe soundcloud.com/rajstah

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    It's called BEAT.
    When two sine waves with different freq match their phase at an opposite 180 degree of waveform, the one positive delete the one in negative and in fact, you hear silence. Phase cancelation.
    Someone can use this trick also in stand of a key controlled LFO, to give more modulation!

    Study a bit of physic acoustic, it's really helpful for production!!!
     
  15. ScottyEightSix

    ScottyEightSix HUGE EARS > COMEDY CHIN

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    I've heard breadcrums work a treat