erm...Is Grooverider a Muslim now?

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  1. 1992

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    deadaelus Laughter in the Slaughter

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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    i'd trust a muslim over a shady christian any day. Muslim people put alot of value in their religeon, to the point that they all follow a similar spiritual path. Christians, on the other hand, bend and shape the bible to support their pursuit of money or simply put denial of "evil doers". Muslims believe in a great Jihad, the struggle within to purify your life and always maintain the stuggle of following the laws of the Koran. Christians use their blind faith in god to justify doing horrible things to people. Like the nazi party utilizing social divisions as lines of life & death. A Muslim is more likely to pray for you than plot your death. You never hear of Muslim scandels of touching or molesting little boys do you? Maybe the retort is that Muslims are too patriarchal, they dont treat their women fairly in society. They maintain women have very rigid and specific duties. This is a strong belief as long as both parties trust it. When a Muslim women is in financial or social trouble, the first person they turn to is their father or brother. (a much better way then mobilizing neighbors and launching all out smeer campaigns to damage ones position in a social heiarchy, much like the christians do. Think of all those Neo-Facist PTA groups that will go to any length to isolate and ostrasize individuals or groups that differ from the assumed norm.) I guess what i ment to say is that i think Osama would be a better friend than George W Bush.
     
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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    he's been wearing it for years I know that, but who knows/cares what it means? bloody cold on a bald head in London too, I wouldnt assume anything. I also dont think its anyones beeswax
     
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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    Bollocks.

    I could take apart every sentence in your reply and prove it wrong but I won't bother.

    Cut the black/white generalisations out. Christians have committed crimes, sins and atrocities and so have Muslims throughout the ages.

    No religion or culture is free of sin. Nor is any religion or culture free of virtue. I wouldn't want Osama or Jerry Farwell for a friend. But I wouldn't mind Richard III or Saladin as ones.

    As far as Osama is concerned, read a book about the bastard before you start comparing him with the fake cowboy.

    As for sodomy and kiddy fiddling in Islamic cultures, it has a very long tradition.
     
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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    once again u start to bang on with a load of bullshit .cant u just replie a simple thread u allways blow your load hahaha u idiot!
     
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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    My, what an intelligent and enthralling response you have there.....

    I'm with Dustek.

    There are bad people on either side, Christian or Muslim. The bad people, like the lovely Nazis and ever so chirpy Jihadi specialists, are religious fundamentalists which take their given religion and twist it into something which it is not meant to be (these people then have brilliant powers to persuade stupid or passionately angry people to then believe that the actual truth is their truth).

    I think your Average Joe (or Mo) Christian or Muslim are pretty chilled out people: I'm friends with both. The friction at the moment is caused by the farcical "War on Terror", lead by the Bush administration and Thunderbird Blair - this has been cultivated and manufactured in order to make people feel uneasy and willing to place their trust in a leader who declares that they will take it on in order to get rid of it. This was, in turn, the intended effect that Bin Laden wanted: an unstable society, from which he could persuade angry young muslims to join his fanatical cult.

    Unfortunately for us, I think that the power of marketing and media in the USA has blown this up to extraordinary proportions; again, this is exactly what Bin Laden wanted.

    So, Deadealus. Yes, there are nasty kiddy fiddling people who are Christians, and as Dustek pointed out, Muslims, but guess what? Not all of them are going to be Christian or Muslim. There are f*ck ups everywhere. Also, isn't saying 'i'd trust a muslim over a shady christian any day' kinda judging books by their covers? Surely you should trust a person by taking something like their personality into consideration?? Get some proper facts before giving an opinion that distorted, quite obviously based on North American continental behaviour which has reached your ears from god knows where.

    BTW: I am not a religious person at all, so not biased towards either side. I just don't think you can condemn or glorify various 'facts' and apply them to such a large group of people like you have done here.

    Extra BTW: Grinch....dear oh dear. Do yourself a favour and stay out of conversations that require an IQ higher than that of a boiled potato.

    Extra Topical BTW: I think the Rider just likes his headgear....
     
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    Is this a DnB forum or a religious discussion group????
    ALL religion is bullshit. It's a medium for the insecure. Something to fall back on when all else fails. Be it Chistian/Muslim or fucking whatever.
     
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    this is a waffle thread :resick:
     
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    Organised religion is the most terrible affliction this world has ever seen. Prior to the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt around 5 thousand years ago, most war was about territory and nobody tried to deny it. Since then people have been able to use their faith as an excuse to go to war. Of course this is evident recently in the 2nd world war, and in the more recent conflicts between Isreal and Palestine, without these so called religions, everybody would be on an even playing field and war would (in theory) would become an extreme tool with which to voice ones political opinion rather than a way in which a person can re-affirm their religion (under no circumstances do i condone war, but it can in EXTREME cases, be necessary).

    Also, it's worth bearing in mind that the world's foremost major religion, Christianity, is a political tool, used to control the masses more easily (as it is a mixture between Roman and Jewish beliefs) devised by Emperor Constantine and the 1st council of Nicea in the 4th Century A.D. which is based on lies, deception and the Vatican's firm belief in the gullibility of the rest of the world. Any body who has read the Dead Sea/ Qumran Scrolls and the Gnostic Gospels in general (which i have) would be able to confirm that the Bible as most Christians worldwide know it, is largely, incomplete.

    In short, anybody who chooses to follow an organised religion is a niave fool who should look to find faith in themselves rather than depending on a policy of war and suffering portraying itself as a relgion so as to be socially acceptable to, essentialy, those whos lives it is making a misery.

    Sorry to anyone whos feelings i have may have hurt but i'm merely trying to make you open your eyes!!

    oh and on the subject of Grooverider becoming a Muslim, if he has, then i would forward him as a prime candidate for suicide bombing, at least the world would then be guaranteed of being free of one more cretinous cunt........





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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    thats the biggest loads of bollocks i have ever read! well done mate! you are perhaps the most naive person on this board!!
     
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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    Yep and yep. I wear Burberry caps but that doesn't make me a chav...

    Oops, yes it does :teeth:
     
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    Dan Brown also wrote a load of bollocks and the gnostic texts are pretty obvious tools of propaganda (i.e. the 'Judas' gospel). Don't accept them at face value.

    Having said that, Constantine made a pretty smart move combining church & state and it was obviously politically motivated.
     
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    id like to say i havent read a single word in this tl;dr thread, but im with grinch on this one.
     
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    Agreed, Dan Brown's writing is fiction based on fact, and fiction, by definition, is utter bollocks. However i draw most of my arguments from books that i have read, which are not fiction but the well researched hypotheses of Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas - Hypotheses which although not iron clad fact, i happen to agree with. I understand that i am impressing upon you an opinion but it is one that i am fairly passionate about and i wouldn't bring all of this shit up if i didn't think it to be relevant.
     
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    the other thing that i meant to mention, was that if the Gnostic texts are merely propaganda, then how would you define the Bible itself if not Propaganda that has been taken as (pardon the pun) gospel truth just because the church says it is.....
     
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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    I can agree. Yet if you want facts and citations from over 20 different books & academic journals it can be done to prove either me or dustek correct. The whole point of this excersize is to get people to understand how they feel about these things, cause you are right, the media has done alot to belittle the muslim people. The Muslim people are a target of Western media and rarely get portrayed in a way that is humbling. I think that more people should read about their culture and traditions.

    Besides I enjoy to post these marginal comments cause it gets people fired up, so my job is done here. If you really wanna explore the differences between modern Muslim culture & Western culture i recommend this book...

    Jihad vs McWorld - Benjamin R. Barber

    Or anything from Edward Said, he has written extensively about Muslim culture and their struggle to find a place in the greater globe.
     
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    Respect for not relying on Dan Brown, but the thing is, Robert Lomas is a mason and has an obvious religious (?) bias to his work. Freemasonry is also founded on a load of bollocks and its proponents tend to invent a lot. I generally find books written by Freemasons to be more tendentious that those of Catholic, especially Jesuit, writers who seem to strive for a more balanced approach.
     
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    Re: erm...Is Grooverider a Musilum now?

    I have spent about 4 months of my life in the middle east; Egypt, Greece and Turkey mainly, where the local relgion is predominantly Muslim and, on the whole, Muslims are some of the nicest people i have ever met, more than likely this is due to the fact that most of them are penny pinching gits and it's easier to rob tourists if you're nice to them. Maybe our native hobos can learn something if they pay closer attention!!
     
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    The Gnostic texts are of a later date than the four 'canonical gospels' and are quite different in content and tone from the canonical gospels and apocrypha in general.

    Bible = propaganda, yep. But the gnostic gospels are blatant fabricated propaganda going against the canonical texts. Their suppression as heresy is not particular surprising.

    And apart from that, PENDULUM COWSTEP SUXS!
     
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