Easiest way to sidechain everything to kick and snare?

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  1. alaska

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    So I am told to make the kick and snare prominent in the mix, one must sidechain everything to them. I'm wondering if there is a quick and practical way of doing this in Ableton, I assume with the compressor? Cheers.
     
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    route snare and kick busses into one kick+snare bus and sidechain from there.
     
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    you don't need to sidechain everything to them, only sounds that are clashing with the main freqs of the kick/snare
     
  4. alaska

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    So that would just be the bass then? In my track I have a guitar, harp, piano, strings, bass.
     
  5. Caldeth

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    If that bass of yours is sub then you could EQ the kick a bit or just sidechain kick to bass, the snare shouldn't affect bass at all. But from my experience, I'd say a good EQing or mixdown does the job as well, if not better. But then again it is very subjective. After all it's about what do you want to achieve in the end, how it should sound in your head.
     
  6. alaska

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    Yes, I have a sub and a reese type bass going on. Thanks for the advice.
     
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    yeah, even just sidechain the frequencies of your bass that clash with your kick/snare, lots of shit to try out just depends on the sound youre going for.
     
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    oh and btw if you got long mid reecey sounds going throughout the track then you might want to drop a few dbs (in EQ) from the reese according to which frequencies the snare hits most, the punchy frequencies. It should instantly make sound clearer.
     
  9. alaska

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    Yeah man definitely. Dropped a few db and put a low pass filter on it. Was taking away from the sub too much. Cheers.
     
  10. Mr Fletch

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    sidechaining in ableton is ridiculously easy. Put a compressor on the sound you want to sidechain, next to the on / off button in the top left of the compressor there is a little triangle. Click that and it'll open up a sidechain button. Highlight that, then underneath there is a drop down list to choose the signal you want to trigger the sidechain. I'f you're using a drum rack to create your beats, choose the drum rack, then underneath is a second drop down tab, click that and choose your kick drum. turn down the threshold a bit and listen to the sidechain take effect in all it's wonderous glory!
     
  11. alz

    alz compress to impress

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    sometimes it's better to take out than to add, just eq the problem frequencies out of your mix
     
  12. alaska

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    True. The sidechaining was not working out lol.
     
  13. fractal

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    sidechaining is definately a very delicate tool, can really help breaks tear through and stuff but can sound really obvious and tacky if its overdone. always worth a try if u think it might create an effect youre after though. i usually use it as a creative thing rather than a mixing thing tbh
     
  14. sam the dnb man

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    This.
    I think sidechaining can ruin a tune sometimes. I rarely use it.
     
  15. Eternaloptimist

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    subtle sidechain ... doesnt have to be pumping