Dubstep. How do they work?

Corbenic

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This is a horrible way to start a thread, but....:|
So, there's this friend of mine, and he's all into dubstep. He's your typical tight pants white suburban american kid and I'm your typcial lebanese-american Mt. Dew drinking junglist solider, and I tell him (politely, and with no intention of getting into an argument) that I find dubstep boring.

And then he begins to barge into an face-to-face flame war about how dnb sucks, and he tells me that Dnb uses the same break over and over.

So i'm thinking "He means looped, right? Looped over and over...but doesn't dubstep loop things to? It's loop based music, right?"

And invariably I tell him this but then he proceeds to say that I and all other makers of Dnb (or jungle) only EVER utilize the amen break, and nothing more.
Now I'm no fanboy, but that made me sad....
I told him that I have over 100 different breaks in my library, other than the amen, and even nowadays breaks aren't used as much as they used to be....but....

My question is, is the dubstep I'm hearing from the "underground scene" in america dubstep at it's best? Or is it some second or third wave?

I guess it's sort of a history question, I thought you guys would know best about this, rather than some urban dictionary definiton or some comments on a video sharing website, or wikipedia....

P.s. not sure if this goes in waffle.... :|
 

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I think tight pants man is referring to the Amen break, which has been used extensively within every single genre of electronic music.

Dubstep doesn't really incorporate breaks that much as the beats are just composed of huge kick drums, snares and several cymbal hits.
 

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Dubstep doesn't really incorporate breaks that much as the beats are just composed of huge kick drums, snares and several cymbal hits.
I know, I'm not insulting dubstep, but I find it ironic that someone who loves dubstep was insulting the very core principles of dnb.
 

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from what i understand dubstep is still finding its sound, its still a very young genre. the sound varies wildly between artists and its all dubstep. its an exciting phase of the music (not for me though, i dont listen that much to it). the scene seems to have found something like a forumla nowadays though, you got the slow beat with the PSSHHH snare and a wobble doing different time sigs. i dont know what american dubstep is like, do you have links
 

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^^ its the same basically. nost of its more brostep like bore gore, DZ, Noah D...but then u have Martyn who lives in DC now
 

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dubstep is huge in America since electronic music is still "underground". And since its comparable to hip hop and rap and shit its blown up. I hate the shit but I also hate mainstream music thats on the radio in America aswell. As for the breaks im pretty sure dubstep is more monotonous.
 

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dubstep is huge in America since electronic music is still "underground". And since its comparable to hip hop and rap and shit its blown up. I hate the shit but I also hate mainstream music thats on the radio in America aswell. As for the breaks im pretty sure dubstep is more monotonous.
Yeah I know, the point of my OPost was to illustrate the fact that the people I KNOW who listen to dubstep in america don't know shit about dnb, and that one I mentioned implied that all we use is the amen break over and over and over. Which is really kinda close-minded.

What I was wondering really, and was trying to imply was:

Has dubstep always been listened to by tight pants wearing american suburban white kids who want to be "cool" and "different? Or was it something rather respectable once, or maybe im just living in the wrong country, idk.

But I don't blame some of you guys for tl;dr'ing my OPost was kinda long-winded and pointless, I apoligize.
 

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I listen to Dubstep and Drum and Bass both are awsome, but Jump Up DnB Heavily influneces Dubstep nowadays, but am from england were dubstep is bigger so ur friend might of onli heard one style of dubstep tell him to listen to RSD - Pretty Bright Light thats a good track that u can tell has dnb elements in it
 

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SOme people like green, others like blue.

Both are colours at the end of the day.
Some colors are shit and shouldnt exist though

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and before anyone says owt, im not racist lol... im lovely

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so lovely i will say it twice
 

Corbenic

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I was just gettin at the point im not really a ds fan.. that was all : )
Lol sorry, im paranoid.

And yeah, dubstep is getting popular with the "different" kids around where I live, and it's supposed to be "new" even though it's been around since 2000 i think, either way it is sorta boring, I hear a dubstep track and the bass is great, but I keep on anticipating a break to blast in, with some reese screaming at full volume.
Although, the people who listen to it where I live are complete cunts towards me, so maybe im just a faggy dork.
 
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