just saw this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxmg9epNpDA doesnt sound brilliant but might be a good technique to get new drum patterns by playin around on it and then finetuning it in the editor. Do u use pads urselfes to create more humanized non quantized beat patterns or to just get ideas? Of course it pretty hard to drum at 170bpm good patterns. Dont know if it is a good way to record at 100-120 and then speed it up in a DAW. Any experience with this? Anyone can recommend some hardware controller pads appropriate for drum programming. I dont think all pad controller out there are suited for this, need to be robust and have a good velocity sensitivity editing capabilities. Have a oxygen keyboard at the moment but this will be replaced soon. Most pads on midi masterkeyboards look pretty cheap.