Desperately need help creating jump up sounds with massive

That sounds pretty close to what i'm after! Gotta try reason now lol. thanks again for your help!

And today my Mac mini will arrive, so I can also try out logic pro and alchemy!

it seems like reasons subtractor and logic pro's alchemy have better basic wavetables to get those kind of sounds. I still don't like the typical sound of massive and serum.
massive is getting on now. serum is newer and imo awesome sound quality
 
Thanks for sharing the forthcoming releases on mine and Jaydan's label SR2.


Jaydan doesn't use massive so you will struggle to recreate them sounds in massive.


Stretcha is a mate of mine and we have recently collaborated together & I won't say how these sounds are made.


After messaging him he's already told me you have messaged my artist on my label asking how you make theses sounds and he didn't tell you, now you come to a forum asking how to recreate these sounds?

Be original. If we was all the same the world would be a boring place.
 
Thanks for sharing the forthcoming releases on mine and Jaydan's label SR2.


Jaydan doesn't use massive so you will struggle to recreate them sounds in massive.


Stretcha is a mate of mine and we have recently collaborated together & I won't say how these sounds are made.


After messaging him he's already told me you have messaged my artist on my label asking how you make theses sounds and he didn't tell you, now you come to a forum asking how to recreate these sounds?

Be original. If we was all the same the world would be a boring place

Sorry! I'm not trying to recreate his sounds though! I just posted these stretcha and jaydan tunes as an example to what I mean by a bouncy/ring'y sound.I'm trying to get this bouncy curve in my sounds. I'm using my own wavetable setups to create my own sounds. I just want to know how to get the bouncy envelopes right. These envelopes don't even have to be like stretcha's/jaydan's tunes. As long as I get some kind of cool envelope in my sound.
 
Hey BHK, Can you maybe post a screenshot of your substractor settings? I got a pretty good base sound but I'm again missing the typical jump up bouncy curve to it. The "wob" envelopes is what i'm after. I messed with the lfo and the envelopes but can't recreate the wob feeling. I can get some attack and release in it, but then the decay/sustain I don't know how to do to create the wob.
 
Hey BHK, Can you maybe post a screenshot of your substractor settings? I got a pretty good base sound but I'm again missing the typical jump up bouncy curve to it. The "wob" envelopes is what i'm after. I messed with the lfo and the envelopes but can't recreate the wob feeling. I can get some attack and release in it, but then the decay/sustain I don't know how to do to create the wob.

We have created a pack for struggling producers like you, go for it, will end your struggle with modulations!

https://bhksamples.com/product/tools-ableton-live-racks/
 
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Sound design is all about knowing how to use envelopes and lfo's to modulate effects and what kind of sounds can be achieved in a serial or only in a parallel process.

Sounds are like color types, there are many that belong to the same color type, and there are many gradations of one single sound type. And the only way to get the exactly the same graditation is knowing what exactly was used.

Noisia for example used for some tracks of the Split the Atom EP clean reese bass samples lifted from some ouf our packs and many people tried hard to recreate these basses thinking they have been made with synths noisia is using too. But after a while more people found out what's way more important, to know the way how reese basses being effected/modulated to get them moving like this.

And almost any professional drum'n'bass producer in the game will never show you all his cards, but it's unusual that at least the synth's was not named by the guys, as the most popular d'n'b producers are just not willing to name the sample libraries they have. :)
 
If your enjoying synthesis i found that getting some hardware made great sounds and helped me understand better, then id manipulate inside my DAW.

I understand that you guys are chatting about using serum/massive but this kind of workflow helps me.

And again samples can sound great if you buy the right packs. Just mix it up with your own sounds if your a purist :teeth:
 
If your enjoying synthesis i found that getting some hardware made great sounds and helped me understand better, then id manipulate inside my DAW.

I understand that you guys are chatting about using serum/massive but this kind of workflow helps me.

And again samples can sound great if you buy the right packs. Just mix it up with your own sounds if your a purist :teeth:

I feel you, I have a Roland Gaia SH01 and it has served me well for the last 3-4 years. It's a great feeling to have physical knobs to play with as apposed to software synth were you have to turn the knobs with the mouse. I have made a lot of great sounds with the Gaia for genres like electro, minimal house and neurofunk dab. It has served me well for those, but for jump-up, again I can't find the right envelopes to get those "Wub's" "Donk's" "Boing's" etc...And the basic wavetables sound shitty to me to get jump up sounds
 
We have created a pack for struggling producers like you, go for it, will end your struggle with modulations!

https://bhksamples.com/product/tools-ableton-live-racks/

Thanks for the suggestion! Sadly I'm out of budget atm though since I just bought a Mac mini and Logic Pro and lots of new plugins to mess with.

Does the pack contain samples for typical jump up sounds? I'm not so interested in Reese basses since I can easily create those myself + youtube is full of tutorials for neurofunk.

Are the Ableton racks purely for manipulating samples? or can it be used with soft synths as well?

Is there stuff in those racks to easily get jump up sounds with special envelopes?
 
I feel you, I have a Roland Gaia SH01 and it has served me well for the last 3-4 years. It's a great feeling to have physical knobs to play with as apposed to software synth were you have to turn the knobs with the mouse. I have made a lot of great sounds with the Gaia for genres like electro, minimal house and neurofunk dab. It has served me well for those, but for jump-up, again I can't find the right envelopes to get those "Wub's" "Donk's" "Boing's" etc...And the basic wavetables sound shitty to me to get jump up sounds
you can get hands on control of a soft synth with something as simple as an M-Audio Oxygen 25, that's all I have to use at the moment. Can pick one up for like $50.
 
Thanks for the suggestion! Sadly I'm out of budget atm though since I just bought a Mac mini and Logic Pro and lots of new plugins to mess with.

Does the pack contain samples for typical jump up sounds? I'm not so interested in Reese basses since I can easily create those myself + youtube is full of tutorials for neurofunk.

Are the Ableton racks purely for manipulating samples? or can it be used with soft synths as well?

Is there stuff in those racks to easily get jump up sounds with special envelopes?


Yes, it contains also a folder with 78 sustained synth oneshot samples to make jump up sounds. There are instrument racks for manipulating samples and effect racks to be used with synths (soft or hardware).
And also racks that show how to make drum samples like kicks, snares, hihats, cymbals and pecussions.

This pack will kick you straight into the ballpark!!!
 
I've finally made a decent synth (well Imo anyway) and I've figured the secret is the fx chain definitely. mine goes something like this (this may help in getting a sound you want)
pro q2
ohmicide and abletons overdrive grouped together and mixed in with dry signal
abletons saturator
pro q2
fabfilter Saturn again grouped and mixed in
more saturation
some multi band compression (just to bring out the sounds I like and exclude the ones I don't)
pro q2 X2 1 For taking away shitty frequencies and 1 for boosting the ones only by a little.
abletons "simple delay" 7% wet and like 24% feedback
pro q2 and fabfilters reverb grouped together and mixed in
finally some compression to glue the sound together and then some more eq boosts after.

I have no clue if what I have done here is right but it was the result of my Sunday evening and I just thought it might be able to help haha
 
I've finally made a decent synth (well Imo anyway) and I've figured the secret is the fx chain definitely. mine goes something like this (this may help in getting a sound you want)
pro q2
ohmicide and abletons overdrive grouped together and mixed in with dry signal
abletons saturator
pro q2
fabfilter Saturn again grouped and mixed in
more saturation
some multi band compression (just to bring out the sounds I like and exclude the ones I don't)
pro q2 X2 1 For taking away shitty frequencies and 1 for boosting the ones only by a little.
abletons "simple delay" 7% wet and like 24% feedback
pro q2 and fabfilters reverb grouped together and mixed in
finally some compression to glue the sound together and then some more eq boosts after.

I have no clue if what I have done here is right but it was the result of my Sunday evening and I just thought it might be able to help haha
Audio or STFU :teeth:
 
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