Deep Minimal Kick help?

[Eddie McGee]

I've been trying to make these big, organic deep minimal kick sounds for a while, but I can't seem to get them so big and wide, yet deep at the same time. Any indication of how I could create this?

Examples:

 

[RUSSLA]

When you say make, do you mean with samples or synthesis?

If you're using sample id highly recommend making your own, much easier imo.

 

[sam the dnb man]

Parallel processing m8.

Have an aux send active. I usually have an aux with some of the lowend rolled off. Add some saturation, but not too much. Overdrive instead of distortion.

Actually, stick a very short reverb before the distortion.
Use a mid side eq and remove all the low end at the sides. Use a stereo widener and widen it a bit.
Also try sending a Tom to that aux as well but lower the resonant peak so it doesn't really have much of a tone.

Sorry this isn't specific. I can't type with my phone

 

[Eddie McGee]

When you say make, do you mean with samples or synthesis?

If you're using sample id highly recommend making your own, much easier imo.

I never thought of synthesis, might be worth giving it a try...

 

[Eddie McGee]

Parallel processing m8.

Have an aux send active. I usually have an aux with some of the lowend rolled off. Add some saturation, but not too much. Overdrive instead of distortion.

Actually, stick a very short reverb before the distortion.
Use a mid side eq and remove all the low end at the sides. Use a stereo widener and widen it a bit.
Also try sending a Tom to that aux as well but lower the resonant peak so it doesn't really have much of a tone.

Sorry this isn't specific. I can't type with my phone

This is the method I've been trying but I struggle to make it sound big if I only widen the mids and highs because in bass drum those tones lack power or the sounds I'm looking for... I sort of need a way to widen the lows on a kick but that always ends up messily?

 

[RUSSLA]

A nifty trick I learnt is a small boost on the sides around 110hz with something like Pro-Q. Check the fab filter vids on YouTube. Loads of good info on mid/side