Converting Your Music To A=432Hz...

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  1. Brex

    Brex The house guy

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  2. EvezDroppin

    EvezDroppin how to change name,......

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    yeah have tried this... not sold on it to be honest! but who knows..........
     
  3. Dark Lizardro

    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    Apparently the tuning at 440hz that we have as standard for instruments (and synths) is completely wrong. Some studies in psychoacoustics shows that people tend to "feel" more the music made with instruments tuned to 432hz.

    I want to try it for my next release and see how it goes. Pretty interesting topic.
     
  4. Mania

    Mania i fukin wot m8

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    It's all hippy pseudoscience bullshit incase you guys didnt already realise
     
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  5. Dark Lizardro

    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    Might be. Just don't forget that the human brain says that the human brain is the most intelligent thing that exists in the entire universe.
     
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    Interesting stuff - worth an experiment on a couple of tracks.
     
  7. RUSSLA

    RUSSLA DNBF Monarch

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    And you're backing that up with what qualifications in pseudoscience exactly? Still a know-it-all little shite who can't finish a tune



    :teeth:
     
  8. smoothassilk

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    Can confirm: it's all hippy pseudoscience bullshit.
     
  9. sam the dnb man

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    I've been meaning to do this for a while. It isn't bullshit
     
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    In the process of producing, what's deciding if my track is pitched to A=440 or not?
    Like how much i detune my synths or what?
     
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    Yea alright, this could be true, but I have the same question as above, how would you actually go and tune your tracks 8Hz lower?

    And also, wouldn't then sound your tune out of key with other tunes that are in the same key?
     
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    Man, such bullshit! I laughed so hard with that video of the plate (tonoscope). The resonance depends on how big the plate is and from which material it is made, not because its 432Hz or 440Hz.
     
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  13. smoothassilk

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    For those who want to try it for themselves:
    It's just under 1/3 of a semitone down according to google, you could just use the pitch knob set to -0.317 st
    Might be a little out of key but probs wouldn't sound too off key when played with another tune in the same key

    But at the same time don't bother. In terms of bulls**t this is up there with directional audio cables
     
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    There's a tuto at the end of the article where the guy explains how to do it with audacity/that adobe sound software.
    But i'm not interested in how to achieve it, i'm more interested in the fact why are tunes automatically tuned to 440?

    Oh and btw, if the tune sounds like garbage, it won't change anything if you tune it 1/3 semitone down.

    And regarding the psychological factor: i rather think that you connect songs to a certain feeling or moment. When you listen to it you are remembered about that feel and that's why you listen to certain music or like a certain type of music. My opinion
     
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    You won't actually notice the different if you listen to music that has been tunes this way.

    But it will have a different effect on you, whether you notice it or not.
     
  16. Mania

    Mania i fukin wot m8

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A440_(pitch_standard)
     
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    It's 440Hz because you had to pick something so it would always be the same
    and it might as well be a nice round number that was close to whatever people were using at the time.

    Plus we'd already worked out exactly how long 1 second was and Hz are related to seconds
     
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    My impression of setting A=440 is that it was chosen as a standard once we were able to accurately measure it. It allowed musicians to independently tune instruments as well as halting the slow progression of A=4xx. Pianists would consistently tune very slightly higher because it naturally sounds brighter. Over time this would lead to A=4xx continually rising.

    Keys on a piano tuned to, for example, A=430 would still mantain the same relationships. The next A an octave higher would be A²=860. (Compare to A=440/
    A²=880)

    Increasing A=4xx sounds brighter, and decreasing A= sounds darker. This can work in DnB, since moody and dark is are considered acceptable.

    To stay in tune, all your instruments would need to be tuned to A=430.

    Also, but not sure of this part (or perhaps any of this), speeding up an A=430 track by about 1-2% on a turntable (@BPM 170to173) would bring the track closer in pitch to A=440?