Compression.... Threshold?

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  1. CH3SH

    CH3SH CH3SH - Naphalm Audio

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    What gives,
    Is there a specific way of adjusting the threshold to suit the sound?
    Or is it a specific threshold range for the frquency used?
    Or is it a rough value for each type of sound group such as drums, bass, ambience etc?
    Thanks for answering in advance =D
     
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    In case you didnt know, it means the level at which the ratio you've set starts working. It has nothing to do with frequency. It has to be set lower than the peaks in the signal, and the more in-your-face you want, the lower the treshold.

    For example your ride is really snappy when you instead want it to just stay in the back, giving that noisy like background to your beats: Lets say the ride channel peaks at -7.6dB. You then insert a compressor there and set the ratio to 3:1 for example, and start dragging the treshold down from -7dB. When the effect is to your liking its good. Usually transparent (something that isnt obvious but is still there) compression treshold at about 2 or 3 decibels below the peak level, depending on the ratio. Usually going further than that means it starts pumping and the effect becomes clearly audible. If you compressor has a Gain Reduction meter, adjust your compressor so that it shows about -3dB correction. That's a good starting point.
     
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    CH3SH CH3SH - Naphalm Audio

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    Some sound advice there kama =]
    What about using auto gain reduction,
    If its possiblewithin the plugin is it best used?
     
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    kama benkama.net

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    Well I've never heard of auto gain reduction, but i think you are referring to gain auto makeup. You use this to compensate for the loss of perceived loudness when the compressor eats the peaks. Using auto is quite alright but be careful as it can lead you to believe (falsely) that the sound is much fatter when in fact it is just perceived louder. I'd switch it off and turn the gain up manually after compressing.
     
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    CH3SH CH3SH - Naphalm Audio

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    Yeah sorry i get a little confused there as i dont have a plug up in front of me lol
    I usually turn off all autos and adjust the makeup gain to the original gain value =]
    But im understanding this threshold malarchy now,
    Thank an yahs lol
     
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    no problem i got nothing better to do at 4 am anyway hehe :D
     
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    ARTFX www.artfx-studios.com

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    Ghehee Kama you are a night animal. :D
    But thanks! Really helpfull.
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    haha whatre you doing up at 4 on a wednesday, dont you have a job to go to
     
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    ARTFX www.artfx-studios.com

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    Well he wouldn't be the only one if he doesn't have a job.
    10% of all the Dutch people is without work at the moment.

    So am I! :(
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    10% is that counting students or not? i see youre in rotterdam, right, is night town still open?
     
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    ARTFX www.artfx-studios.com

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    That's 10% of all people which could be working, so students included.
    But most of the students can get work, as a PART-TIME job.
     
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    ARTFX www.artfx-studios.com

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    Most of the students here can find work, because they're cheap.
    People who just finished school are in the problem category.
    So am I, just finished my education as a Designer, but can't find any work.

    So I started my own bussiness, a multimedia production company called ARTFX-STUDIOS.

    And yes, Nighttown is still open. But it was closed down some time, got a new name, etc.
    It's Club Watt right now, still have the PRSPCT parties in there.
    We had a club here in Rotterdam called Waterfront famous for it's DNB parties, they closed down and all the parties have gone to Club Watt, which is the new Nighttown.
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    fucked up about waterfront. im really glad to hear nighttown is back in full swing tho. good luck with your bizness, ill keep it in mind if were going to need a redesign for the label (reactorstudios.nl will go label soon. ish. i think)
     
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    I dont actually, lost it a month or so back. I'm in no rush in getting a new one but my bank account is running a bit thin so i guess i have no choice....

    10% of finnish workforce without work as well atm. Think it might be 11% right now. I'm a welder/metal worker and here the downturn has hit the traditional industrial sector the hardest, theres no jobs to be had in that area. I guess I'm gonna have to sell my soul for an office cubicle or start wiping the arses of the elderly.
     
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    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    youre a welder? whoa that was unexpected. then again you are finnish, i guess 'design' and the like will appear on the scene there in a few years from now. the crisis seems to have hit equally hard all over, all the way from metal work to website sales. so my colleauge is estonian and says they are taught finnish in school and count themselves as 'finns' did you know about this? i said to the bitch, bitch you aint finn, you russian at its most. then she got all mad...
     
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    No man we got a lot of media business and all that jazz here as well. I was actually studying media communications (AV, design, web etc) in a polytechnic for a year and a half but I realized that I already spend all of my free time in front of a computer so I dont want to do that as a job as well. Plus I'm good with my hands so I guess that's it. That or a fluffer in porn industry.

    I was thinking about geting into the music business properly but realized that would very much take away the fun in it and I would have to do anything that paid well (or paid at all). I prefer it as a hobby or a passion much more.
     
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    And yeah LOL about the estonian way! Their national anthem is the same as the finnish one but with different words... They are very similiar to finns tho, the languages and cultures are very close to each other.

    I guess they are still seeking their national identity, having been under a foreign (soviet) rule for so long. Most estonians have a really critical view of russians because of that.
     
  18. richie_stix

    richie_stix gomby plz

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    a man who makes his hobby a career needs a new hobby...
     
  19. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    aha! ahaha! how absurd! so you have design do you. in finland. maybe for igloos and mooses, thats all very well, but until you get at least one airport in the country or adsl you should probably keep that to yourself eh? just looking out for you here, dont want you to look silly.
     
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    richie_stix gomby plz

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    how come a thread on compression (that started out useful) now is banging on about employment in finland?