break masters only - can u help?

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  1. pix

    pix New Member

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    right- well ya know in a breakbeet right.

    well you get this pattern yes. d...s.......d.s... - d 4 drum ; s 4 snare
    in another you may get this . d...s..rrr.d.s... - the r is for ruffle

    you may call it a shuffle or something . yes -

    if you have a clue as to what im on about then plz continue to read
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    my question is this - what the hell do you use or what instrument do you use to get the effect..
    in drum and bass breaks - i often seem to think that it is part of the snare. but im not too shure - i think you must take the end of the snare and quiten it or reverse it or somthing....

    somebody help me .... if you know the answer to this - could you

    (A) reply a.s.a.p
    (B) give me a good example
    (C) send me a file with the kit . i.e drum snare hat - ruffle parts

    T H A N X G U Y Z..................
     
  2. Affliction

    Affliction thought size didnt matter

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    Ghost Snares!!! :p

    it is, as you guess, a slightly quieter version of the main snare drum, which can be alternated with a hi hat...

    here be an example:
     

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  3. pix

    pix New Member

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    Need A Better Example - Like A Hard Dnb Loop

    BUT THANKS FOR THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION
    ALLTHOUGHT I STILL HEAR ALOT MORE GOING ON THAN JUST A QUITE SNARE

    MAYBE IM WRONG, GONNA TEST YOUR GHOST SNARE THEORY
     
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  4. Serum

    Serum Well-Known Member

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    The easiest way to get these is to cut up a funk break with these hits in there and make a drumkit from it.
    You sometimes get combinations of ghost snares, shakers, hihats or cymbals in there and it's hard and sometimes pointless to try to sound like a drummer playing a break when you're actually programming it. You can do nice hard mechanical ghost snares (like kemal would use) that are well suited to programing in a sequencer.

    There's some folk that would dispute what i'm saying, as it is possible to sound live on a computer but it's not easy
     
  5. kn00tcn

    kn00tcn zero-zero

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    :mkay:

    one way to make ghost snares is to take the regular snare & cut the volume faster if that makes any sense.......... or just use a quieter snare.....


    (measure)
    = _ - _ = _ - _ = _ - _ = _ - _
    K _ H _ S _ H s H s K _ S _ H _

    K=kick
    H=hat
    S=snare
    s=quieter, lower pitched, or cut snare

    mmmkay :mkay:
     
  6. sdm

    sdm This is Dog Fort

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    Works! :thumbsup:

    GOOD example.
     
  7. killjoy

    killjoy New Member

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    a ghost snare is really a rimshot in many drum loops - when the drummer hits the metal edge of the drum. also, you can use a percussion hit like a tom, cowbell, or conga to take the place of a ghost snare.

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  8. freeagent

    freeagent Almost 30

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    Use of compression on breaks is pretty essential for this type of drum loop.