Any tips for producing dirty jump up?

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  1. MetaFisics

    MetaFisics Ganjalist

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    Hi all, im looking to produce some filth in my spare time and was wondering if anyone knew which was the best programme to use to make some moody dnb?
    Ive got reason 4.0, but was jost hoping people might have some advice on basic drum structure in reason for a jump up banger. But particulary on what they have found to be their favourite production programme to create some nasty beats....
    thanks
     
  2. Ch4ndler

    Ch4ndler I've been naughty, I'm banned

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    Fruity loops gets reccomened alot here, have a look at downloading the trial
     
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    Nutek movement junglist

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    sequencing = fruity loops
    basslines = reason
     
  4. MetaFisics

    MetaFisics Ganjalist

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    will try out fruity loops cheers
     
  5. sook

    sook Member

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    hit yourself in the groin with a dead cat....
    then write some techstep.... :p
     
  6. sam the dnb man

    sam the dnb man Variation

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    Dont just get fruityloops if you decide to get it.

    the plug ins are pretty shit for decent jump up bass really
     
  7. logikz

    logikz I Am Not The King Staff Member

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    plugs for jump up bass haha youre not making any sense
     
  8. LowFoe

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    errm yea, id say the best programme ive used to date is cuebase3, didnt go for 4 as apparently its bugged. if your already using reason weather u choose to download cuebase or fl studio you can still use reason as a plug in... so you wont loose all the synths u might have spend time creating.

    I like to write my beats in wav. because they seem to hit cleaner, try not to do to much with beats with reguards to compressing and that, some times ull need to EQ to get them sitting in the right frq range, but less is more.

    with reguards to synths id say just keep it basic, and make sure there is room for your tune to breath. By making space between the differen frq ranges with ur eqs, ull find u get a fuller sound.

    hope i helped,
    Safe.
     
  9. Bass Character

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    Whichever DAW you end up going for, make sure it has VST support. Reason is ok but it suffers due to lack of VSTs, Subtractor and Malmstrom are solid little synths and Thor is a beast, probably as good as NI Massive, but the problem is that when you've got a nice sound rolling you'll inevitable want to put some effects on it or do some EQing and this means bouncing down your audio and loading it into a separate program which can be a pain. I don't really like the reason compressors and I'm not a big fan of Scream either. (Distortion will be very important if you want to do jump up)

    These problems are remedied if you get a rewire client however it still does mean flipping between windows and it can become a big drain on your system resources. Personally I use Cubase SX3, I have Reason 4 and use it occasionally but mainly just for knocking together ideas or having a bit of fun.

    Cubase can be a bit overwelming for first-time users, (took me about 2 weeks to get a sound out of it when I first started), but I wouldn't use anything else now. I'm starting to ramble now so I'll just give you my essential list of jump up tools:

    z3ta+
    Brilliant little synth, you can practically get any sound you want out of it (presets are a bit naff though). Low memory usage so you can have 3 or 4 of them open with no problems.

    Some sort of EQ
    Essential for getting everything to fit together (especially drums). I use Waves REQ but there are plenty of freeware ones around.

    Ohmicide
    The most sickening distortion plugin that has ever growled in my ears. If you want to try and get sounds like 'Machete' or DJ Pleasure, you'll need this.

    I'm tempted to say some sort of compressor, but they're very difficult to use when you're starting out and can end up ruining something that would've otherwise sounded alright. (Properly enveloped drum hits shouldn't really need much compression if they're mixed right)

    Spectral Analyser
    Useful tool to hunt down any pesky frequencies that are taking up valuable head room. Also useful when EQing drum hits, but don't become reliant on it, ears are better than eyes.

    And finally...............GOOD SAMPLES
    There's absolutely no point wasting you're time trying to make shit samples sound good, you can't polish a turd. If you've got good samples/breaks all they will need is chopping up, EQing and envelopes (maybe compression).

    Spose that's about it really. I suppose I could just contradict myself by saying you don't have to give up on Reason altogether, alot of producers swear by it. Search youtube for some tutorial videos, Logistics did one, and he uses Reason.
     
  10. KEMZ

    KEMZ Blatant Royal Status

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    Good post Bass Character
     
  11. LowFoe

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    Woah ho ho holey shit, nice post!!!


    just one question, just downloaded z3ta, littrally today,
    i got it so i could make nice clean low end, but i cant!!!!
    Grrr!

    i just want clean low end bass, muted, not much tone to it.

    like a sine layer u find in most dnb,

    dont get me wrong, i get close, but whatever i make has a faint high end buzz in it, even when i cut all the high.

    i think im missing somthing, good compressor maybe??

    ive been told less fx is better,

    but i just cant seem to get what im looking for.

    Ohmicide sounds cool thanks for the tip.

    have any links to tunes u have made??

    Thank you pleash!
     
  12. Bass Character

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    Here's a video by Sub Focus showing you how he does his sub-bass in z3ta+.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwBFcCTKUIk&feature=related

    I think he pretty much goes through everything you need to know.

    I've just updated my signature, so you can check my myspace. Haven't uploaded anything on it for about a year so some of it's a bit amateur, but you can get an idea of the kind of stuff i'm into.
     
  13. MetaFisics

    MetaFisics Ganjalist

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    thanks for all the replies, really good info. will get on and try make some filth....