Ableton's Kicks

Discussion in 'Production' started by Menosance, Sep 12, 2013.

  1. Menosance

    Menosance aka OSOI

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    Hi guys,

    Hope you are all well. I have recently moved from Live 8 to Live 9 and started using the drum packs found within the libary (606, 707, C78 etc) but I have found that the kicks of each pack (except 707s) sound very weak. Now, is this their proper signature sound or they are really that weak?? How can I improve them??

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    Menosance :)
     
  2. miszt

    miszt BASSFACE Royale

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    none of the roland range of kicks is especially hard hitting, its when they are carefully compressed, saturated, etc that they come to life

    are you comparing the kicks between 9 and 8? is there a significant diffrence between the 2 sets of kits? there really shouldnt be...
     
  3. W3st

    W3st Unsigned DnB Producer

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    yeah there really shouldnt be too much difference. stack, eq, transient shape/compress to get the sounds you need. although I feel like you already knew that.
    good luck
     
  4. spyre

    spyre sample all the things

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    Put a saturator on them
     
  5. Menosance

    Menosance aka OSOI

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    You answered my question with your first line. I was mainly asking on whole not on a specific drum machine. But yeah, it looks like they are all weak, although the 707 is not that much weak for D&B imo.

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    Yes, there isn't any difference but all still sound weak.

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    Been there, done that. And that is not enough for these kicks.
     
  6. MARKLAR

    MARKLAR International Tracksuit Salesman

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    use a different sample pack?
     
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    tewky1 Well-Known Member

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    Saturation not enough, OD, OD not enough, distort.

    I like the Tubed 808 sample that is in abletons library somewhere, nice for making a bass out of!
     
  8. Menosance

    Menosance aka OSOI

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    Yes, I also do that don't worry but I wanted to experiment mith Ableton due to my shift to Live 9.

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    Yes I fully agree on the tubed 808. Sounds really original in its own right.
     
  9. cohma101

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    Use different samples.

    The Ableton stock packs are weak. Layering, compression, saturating and EQing would fix this, but it'll take some serious work.
     
  10. miszt

    miszt BASSFACE Royale

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    theres nothing more needs doing to the ableton kits, than needs doing to any other drum kit tbh, they are excellent quality, but they are certainly not aimed at dnb specifcally, but i prefer realistic kits myself, I use allot of them with not much more than compression, and saturation occasionally, the roland kits are from a diffrent era, for a diffrent sound - that said, the 909 kick and the 808 kick, even in their clean state are still a major part of many genres of music today
     
  11. spyre

    spyre sample all the things

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    Put two saturators on them