a bit of music theory help :)

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  1. SCARPA

    SCARPA New Member

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    Apologies in advance if this thread is up somewhere already ,
    i just really would like to know if there are any great links to do with chord progression!!??

    like knowing which chord works together with another to be able to play out something nice with pads or strings etc !!

    I'm sure advice would be able to help others aswell as just myself !!

    i could use my ears but was hoping someone has a good trick up their sleeve to make me sound like i have been playing piano for years lol ...
    .. cheers !
     
  2. RUSSLA

    RUSSLA DNBF Monarch

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    Lots on YouTube about chord progressions, just make sure you use minor scales and their relative chords.
     
  3. saganspirit

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    Minor 9th and Minor 7th chords seem to go well. Plenty on youtube as stated though.
     
  4. Mr Fletch

    Mr Fletch aka KRONIX

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    Check out the production fundamentals sticky at the top of the page. I got links in there you will find extremely useful
     
  5. Dark Lizardro

    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    To add my 2 cents here, use those aforementioned tuts and links, learn chord progressions and try to avoid the most common ones. Minor chords can lead to major chords for great effect, without affecting the mood of the song. Slap an otherwhise strange chord after in there. It's music and we have no rules.
     
  6. Solace

    Solace Active Member

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    Tad bit offtopic:

    Why minor scales?
    When I'm using a key it's a minor one most of the time, but just because I like the sound of it more.
    Is there an actual reason to preferably use minor scales?
     
  7. Sulihin

    Sulihin Active Member

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    I'm the opposite of an expert on the subject, but I believe that generally minor keys sound more dark and moody while major chords are more happy. DnB tends to run towards the dark and moody.
     
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  8. RUSSLA

    RUSSLA DNBF Monarch

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    Unless you're writing pop music (so i've been told) pretty much all dance music utilises Minor scales
     
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    Ah yea that makes sense! Thanks guys
     
  10. Dark Lizardro

    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    You can actually write the happiest of songs using minor and the saddest of songs using major scales.
     
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  11. smoothassilk

    smoothassilk Active Member

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    Mood comes much more from the sequence of chords than the chords themselves. There's nothing weird about an C major chord, but if you start your progression with an B minor chord it's going to sound pretty odd.

    Dnb never really uses chords very much or very well, so it probably doesn't matter that much.
     
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  12. Dark Lizardro

    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    For my undesrtanding, besides liquid, dnb doesn't have to be melodical at all. And even in liquid, sampling is more used than proper composing or arranging. So basically the producer won't even need to bother about it.
     
  13. smoothassilk

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    That said, it's a good extra thing to have if you can do it. I think producers of all kinds underestimate chords because they don't need them in the same way rock musicians might underestimate the potential of good sound design.
     
  14. RUSSLA

    RUSSLA DNBF Monarch

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    A mate said to me the other day; you wouldnt build a house without learning construction, so why try and make music without learning the theory.
     
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  15. Interruptor

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    But if you work with, say, jazz samples, it is very _very_ good to know about chords obviously. It helps you to build the sample progression and get it sound right. Also it helps you to decide if you need to pitch some sample up or down a few notes to get a nice, flowing progression going. Its still a chord progression way of thinking (at least for me) even if I dont write a note of midi.
     
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  16. Yukon

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    Our ears already know music theory. Knowing music theory just makes things faster.
     
  17. Dark Lizardro

    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    I don't have a formal degree in music, even though I do music. Acquired knowledge can be as much good as a proper formation. Of course I do study a little bit of theory, but I can't even read a partiture, for example.
     
  18. RUSSLA

    RUSSLA DNBF Monarch

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    I'm not saying you need a degree, just learning a few scales and chords (theory) is fundamental imo.
     
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    Dark Lizardro The Lizard that has a hammer Staff Member

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    Yes, I understood that. i was just complementing saying that some theory is good, being it self-taught or through a degree.
     
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  20. smoothassilk

    smoothassilk Active Member

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    Definitely not a degree, but I have grade 5 theory cause everyone who wants to learn an instrument beyond grade 5 has to learn it. It was really useless for composing- teaching myself to improvise has been much more useful in terms of theory for contemporary composition.