Right, so sometimes I just get a little bored of tweaking knobs in massive to get that lively reese action going. I just wanna make some rolling jungle beats, and what goes with them better than the classic 808 tom basslines, bouncing their fat little hearts out. So I was wondering if anyone could offer some good tips on this particular sound. It seems like a fairly simple thing to create, just tweaking the envelope on a sub bass should do most of the work. But there is something about those original 808 tom samples, what is it? Do you guys create your own from scratch or just pitch the 808 toms samples and load em up into a sampler? If the latter, care to share some of those samples? Thanks people!