32nd and 64th notes

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  1. DanDnB

    DanDnB Bass and Drums

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    Hi everyone,

    How many of you guys use 32nd and 64th notes/hits/divisions on your drum patterns.

    I did once, but it is hard to gauge exactly where you are in the bar when using 64ths. Timing becomes a problem and i have a problem getting used to it.

    For instance, one of my favorite songs:

    Ed Rush + Optical - Raven

    The first drum pattern contains 16th hits.

    When you get to about 1:08 you hear a sorta metallic sounding shuffle that sounds like 32nd notes. If this is true please confirm this with me as I am trying to reproduce this intermediate shuffle to spice things up and make the song unpredictable.

    The rest of the song however is pretty much 16th patterns.

    Thanks!
     
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  2. kama

    kama benkama.net

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    If it's problematic to navigate in the pattern, just do the 32nd notes and switch back to 16th grid, no?

    Don't really use those myself. Maybe in some drill kind of fills. But very rarely.
     
  3. DanDnB

    DanDnB Bass and Drums

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    Thanks Kama, I thought I was the only one that didn't use them.

    Sometimes I have some really wicked drum patterns flowing but I regret not being able to make intermediate fast beats that shuffle, i.e with 32nd notes. Guess it's no big deal!
     
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    all about swung quantization
    for the snap on your grid...
    swing those 16ths...
     
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    true. You can get incredibly good grooves by adding a little shuffle. It doesn't have to be that much even. In fruity, less than 10% takes away some of that machine drum feel.