Discussion in 'Drum & Bass' started by ref83, Nov 6, 2004.
worth it? who would you wanna see playing a 3 hour set? would you get bored too easily?
andy c or friction would do nicely
Then it needs to be really good and it should not be very monotonous, otherwise I think I will get bored.
I think Dom & Roland would be an exceptional 3 hour set!!
I get pissed off that in the UK good DJ's can get away with playing 1 hour sets or even shorter. When I used to live in NZ even the big names had to play for at least 3 hours or else people would feel they got ripped off. A 3 hour set isn't too long. I once saw just Concord Dawn and Pendulum play from Midnight till 6am and I still wanted more at the end (Although I could hardly stand up)
3hr sets are the way forward for the scene. andy, zinc, friction, marky would all benefit from longer sets. I'd like it to be a standard thing if i could.
nah i think one hours plenty, if a dj has to play 3 hours there just lose interest in mixing and wont bother mixing as quick and as good as they do. U get fucking hot when mixing!
a person who can be versatile, and here i would have to go along with the crowd - andy c, friction, marky, probably would add dieselboy, flight, bailey, goldie, zinc, a-sides to the list (they really know how the please the crowd)
Friction Zinc or Randall
the other advantage of shorter sets is that theres more time for other DJ's. sadly this time isnt usually made the most of and line ups usually consist 1 or 2 excellent DJ's and a mass of mediocre. for this reason id definitly like to see the greats hammering some 3 hour sets
there's a certain kind of dj who does better the longer he or she is at the tables. usually have to go to an underground party to feel it. it's an impromptu thing. real fucking live. commercialism unfortunately curtails artistic liberality. i can dance for 3 hours without pills once i get into that world. some djs also get into a zone after a while. oh fuck! who am i writing to, lotus magazine?
REASONS WHY 3hr SETS ARE GOOD:
1. many DJ's prefer to play longer sets (andy,friction,zinc have all said this) and if the DJ's happier then chances are they'll play a better set.
2. they're better for the promoters cos they get better value for money as big DJ's will give a discount for longer sets as they spend less time driving from place to place. there for the promoter can spend the extra money on the rest of the line up.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
3. LESS ANTHEM BASHING - beacuse you usually get six big name DJ's all playin one after another, chances are you'll usually get the same 5 big tunes of the moment played in every set beacuse they all want to please the crowd. sadly it means you end up hearing the same tunes again and again and again every hour. and to make a bad situation worse you'll probs get some mindless MC calling for a rewind every time.
however with a 3hr set, at the most your gonna hear a tune played once every 3hrs rather than every 60 minutes. also havin more time means the dj has longer to express them self, try out new things, drop some old bits, some new bits, some unheard obscure bits from new producers. a good DJ will use the time to build a proper set that takes the crowd through a full journey if you know what I mean.
at the end of the day, the promoters arent gonna change things untill we say we wont a change.
so what are the disadvantages?
- crowd gets bored?
- risky for promoters?
I think 2 hours is ideal. Enough time to play all different kinds of tunes but not so long that you get bored. You're more than likely to need a slash or dump in a 3 hour set which can put a hold on things.
yeah it can be risky for the promoters, thats why you hardly ever see it, its a shame in my opinion.
what I really dont understand is this bored business, whats to get bored of in a 3hr set ? how is zinc comin on and playin 15 tunes in a 1hr set followed by hype playing 15 tunes, 5 of which you've just heard zinc drop only 40 minutes ago any more exciting ?
and also how many of the people posting mesages saying 3hrs would be boring have actually been lucky enough to actually hear a 3hr set by one of the top dogs ? I've heard a 3hr andy c set before and it was one of the best sets ive ever heard him do, ive seen mampi drop 2 and a half hrs and again the man smashed it, Zinc and Friction went b2b for a good few hours a couple of weeks back and they never once lost my attention.
can anyone explain why it is they think they'd get bored cos I dont understand it
Really good dj's wouldn't give the crowd a bored feeling in a three hour set, hell not even in a 5 hour set. When you know your audience that shouldn't be a problem.
It's all up to promotors to bring this type of dj-ing back by booking less dj's for one line-up. Thus avoiding 40 mins anthem-smasher sets all night long.
word....well i guess this thread was kinda finding out popular opinion as we have Klute playing 3 hours at our night soon...kinda risky...
i just saw dawn and pendulum here in austin texas, best night of my life, and they played from like 12-intill i left, and i dont know what time it was, and yes, i couldent bairly stand too.
I'd pay more money to hear say Friction b2b Zinc 3 hours, Pendulum b2b Concord Dawn 3 hours, Hype b2b Andy C 3 hours than i would to hear 45minutes sets from the usual DJs u hear at One Nation / Innovation / Slammin.
If the DJ's know what there doing and have the time to express themselves properly i think it would work a lot better. Andy C's 3 hour monster at the Nightlife 2 launch is a proving factor here ! Smashed it.
fair play mate, what night's that ?
and back to the original point tho, what DJ's would / WOULD'NT you like to see play 3+hrs ?
because in my opinion, as good as it would be for the scene to have more 3hr sets it would also be bad for the scene if all DJ's played 3hrs for example imagin going to a night where Brockie, Grooverider and TWISTED INDIVIDUAL ( my personal three worst DJ's, feel free to replace with your own personal most disliked DJ's) all played 3hrs I dont think I'd go
so anyway heres my list of want to sees / dont want to sees.
WANT TO SEE PLAY 3HRS
CRAZE B2B JUJU
NICKY BLACKMARKET (this would be tooooooo good trust, man knows his tunes and never fails to put a huge smile on my face when ever he plays big up the Nicky BM )
DONT EVER WANT TO SEE PLAY 3HRS
AND OTHER PRODUCER/DJ'S ( by this I mean people like Twisted Individual who only made it in to the DJ scene cos they put out a few tunes which sold well, if it wasn't for that I dont think he'd get any bookings. as oposed to someone like DJ Flight who made her name by being a great DJ .) the reason for this is cos I dont believe they would have the skills to play 3hrs of consistantly good mixin and be able to keep the crowds interest.
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