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    Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Hey guys, I'm totally new to drum and bass production. I have been checking some of this music out and it really interests me. I'd love to start making some of my own music, but I have no idea where to start. I know a fair amount about recording programs etc., but I'm more of an Audio recording guy, not a producer. Can anyone help me on where to start. Sorry if this has been asked before. Also I have Ableton Live 7, Reason 4.0, Logic Pro 8 and a Midi Keyboard. Let me know if you want me to make my question a little more specific! Thank you so much!
    Mike
    Edit: I have no idea where to start. Are there like terms and stuff I should know, and what are some things that drum and bass music should have in it? I really have no idea what I'm doing at all. I just need a starting point. Also, can any of you recommend me some DnB to listen to??

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    There's definitely people who can help ya out on here. And yeah, narrow down the question abit to give 'em a startin' point on where to help ya out. I started usin Reason 3.0 in Janurary 2007, now up to Reason 4.0, but I'm such a novice still, not sure if I could help much in advice....pz & respect and good luck to ya'!

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Tektiv View Post
    There's definitely people who can help ya out on here. And yeah, narrow down the question abit to give 'em a startin' point on where to help ya out. I started usin Reason 3.0 in Janurary 2007, now up to Reason 4.0, but I'm such a novice still, not sure if I could help much in advice....pz & respect and good luck to ya'!
    hahaha alrighty man thanks.
    I guess what I'm trying to say is that I have no idea where to start. Are there like terms and stuff I should know, and what are some things that drum and bass music should have in it? I really have no idea what I'm doing at all. I just need a starting point.

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Welcome! I hope you enjoy your stay!
    Drum n Bass Production is an awesome style of music to learn to produce that will test your abilities!
    All the best!

    A few things you could do.
    1. Pick one sequencer to use. Learn it well.
    2. Read Read Read! Sound on Sound mag. Computermusic mag.
    Futuremusic Mag etc.
    3. Watch the videos. CM/FM etc do great videos with DnB Headz
    all the time. Youtube that shit etc.
    4. Dogsonacid.com/grid check it out if only for the Q&A sessions.
    Brilliant.
    5. Do all steps 1-4 again. You will pick it up quite fast i'm sure.

    Ez bruv.

    also check this Q&A out with NZ's new goldenboy Cern

    http://sydneyfriction.com/modules.ph...&topic=7669&18

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    first things first u shud have the bpm between 165 - 185.

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Thank you very much guys! Any artists I should check out?

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by dj sc View Post
    first things first u shud have the bpm between 165 - 185.
    Yeah man, the amen breaks in jungle tunes are usually around 165-170 or so range..the breaks in liquid, etc., around 170-175 or so, jump up can be around 175 and up..if you're just starting out, grab some sample packs with pre-made breaks in them...you can switch 'em up here in there if they're rex files for the breaks. If the breaks are in wav format, get Recycle by Propellerhead, the same folks who make Reason, so you can change the wav into a rex file.

    Some packs/refills I use:
    [Reason Refill] Zero-G Jungle Warfare 1
    [Reason Refill] Zero-G Jungle Warfare 2
    [Reason Refill] Zero-G Jungle Warfare 3
    D&B 4 The Headz
    EZ Rollers Drum&Bass Refill
    David Carbone DNB
    Nu:Tone sample pack
    Danny Byrd sample pack
    Repulsive sample pack (breaks,strings,bass,etc..)

    among others...the Jungle Warfare ones have some nice amen breaks in rex format that you can chop up, make 'em into your own sound, etc..those will help ya get your feet wet so to speak, as the samples for the breaks are usually labeled with their bpm...enjoy!

    P.S. you can go onto loopmasters.com and sample stuff to see if ya want to purchase,etc., know what you're gettin' ahead of time basically..pz

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludvista29 View Post
    Thank you very much guys! Any artists I should check out?
    Depends on what style you're into right now. What have you been listenin' to lately? That got you into it?

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Tektiv View Post
    Yeah man, the amen breaks in jungle tunes are usually around 165-170 or so range..the breaks in liquid, etc., around 170-175 or so, jump up can be around 175 and up..if you're just starting out, grab some sample packs with pre-made breaks in them...you can switch 'em up here in there if they're rex files for the breaks. If the breaks are in wav format, get Recycle by Propellerhead, the same folks who make Reason, so you can change the wav into a rex file.

    Some packs/refills I use:
    [Reason Refill] Zero-G Jungle Warfare 1
    [Reason Refill] Zero-G Jungle Warfare 2
    [Reason Refill] Zero-G Jungle Warfare 3
    D&B 4 The Headz
    EZ Rollers Drum&Bass Refill
    David Carbone DNB
    Nu:Tone sample pack
    Danny Byrd sample pack
    Repulsive sample pack (breaks,strings,bass,etc..)

    among others...the Jungle Warfare ones have some nice amen breaks in rex format that you can chop up, make 'em into your own sound, etc..those will help ya get your feet wet so to speak, as the samples for the breaks are usually labeled with their bpm...enjoy!

    P.S. you can go onto loopmasters.com and sample stuff to see if ya want to purchase,etc., know what you're gettin' ahead of time basically..pz
    thanks man, I believe I already have the Zero- G Refills. I'll have to look into them a little more. Is there anyway I could use those loops in ableton live?

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludvista29 View Post
    thanks man, I believe I already have the Zero- G Refills. I'll have to look into them a little more. Is there anyway I could use those loops in ableton live?
    Found this on the Ableton site...I don't have it myself, so did a quick look up for ya:

    http://www.ableton.com/suite-8

    Totally compatible
    Live works seamlessly with controller hardware and assigning custom MIDI controls is simple. Live supports AIFF, WAV, MP3, Ogg Vorbis and FLAC files, VST and AU effects and instruments. Live can handle REX files and runs as a ReWire Master or Slave, so it works nicely alongside other DAWs like Pro Tools, Logic, Cubase or Reason. And if you have a multicore or multiprocessor system, Live supports that, too.

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    hahaha sweet man. I'm just gonna have to figure out how to open the refills without reason running. I shouldnt have even had you look, I feel like an ass hahahah

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludvista29 View Post
    Thank you very much guys! Any artists I should check out?

    KEMAL AND ROB DATA AKA KONFLICT(THE FUCKING ALL TIME MASTERS)

    axiom
    ed rush and optical
    phace
    noisia
    spor
    trace
    feirce
    mishanthrop
    andy c
    digital
    optiv
    black sun empire
    teebee
    calyx
    loxy
    ink
    total science
    matrix
    futurebound
    shimon
    logistics
    high contrast
    ltj bukem

    and any 1 on here that makes dnb


    just to name a few

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludvista29 View Post
    hahaha sweet man. I'm just gonna have to figure out how to open the refills without reason running. I shouldnt have even had you look, I feel like an ass hahahah
    haha, naw man, no worries. I'm just hangin' at the house, got time on my hands right now, lol..I'm not sure about the openin' the refills without running reason..maybe you can look it up, so you won't fill like an ass if I do, lol, jk. But yeah man, i'm just a Reason 4.0 person, never really got into the other programs to be honest..mainly because of funds, and I just enjoy toyin' with Reason.

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Tektiv View Post
    haha, naw man, no worries. I'm just hangin' at the house, got time on my hands right now, lol..I'm not sure about the openin' the refills without running reason..maybe you can look it up, so you won't fill like an ass if I do, lol, jk. But yeah man, i'm just a Reason 4.0 person, never really got into the other programs to be honest..mainly because of funds, and I just enjoy toyin' with Reason.
    mehhh, its impossible on a mac. :/
    and thanks to the other guy for the recommendations!

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    Re: Total new guy here, Please help me.

    Random producers I listen to regularly:


    Lenzman
    Random Movement
    Marky
    S.P.Y.
    Lomax
    Dillinja
    A-Sides
    Calibre
    Human Factor
    Sigma
    Spectrasoul
    Electrosoul System
    Eveson
    BCee
    LAOS
    Blame
    Bungle
    Atlantic Connection
    LTJ Bukem
    Brookes Brothers
    Chase & Status
    Commix
    Shy FX
    Original Sin
    Taxman
    Dirty Harry
    General Malice
    Lemon D
    Icicle & Switch
    Breakage

    etc...

    various styles...

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