thanks everyone for all of the help, I'll be sure to get some ideas.
thanks everyone for all of the help, I'll be sure to get some ideas.
you certainly have the tools thats for sure. i generally come up with 16 - 32 bar loops and phrases, breaks, pads basslines ect in Reason - then i simply export them one at a time (solo) into a folder as 24 / 16bit Wav files. then i open them all up on individual tracks in the sequencer, in your case: Logic
it would look something like this:
track 1: Bass 1
track 2: Bass 2
track 3: kick 1
track 4. kick 2
track 5: snare 1
track 6: snare 2
and so on.
its not uncommon in drumnbass production to have 12 tracks for the drums - 5 bass tracks - 3 FX tracks and so on.
most songs are just extended from an original 32 / 64 bar segment. from here you can cut, copy, paste the main body of the track in to 4 -5 mins of audio.
i highly reccommend Logistics tutorials on youtube, and the Chase & Status ones. Sub focus has some out there i believe too. the net is full to the brim of info for production.
read up on understanding EQ (within a composition of course) - this will do you wonders. theres one on 36 Hertz.com (DJ Vapours site) and its brilliant on this subject.
infact that whole site is brilliant and what come out of those boys studios. check em!
As I've recently started to produce d'n'b too, I also got some questions.
I just can't make interesting tracks (yet). I am trying everything, but can't make them to feel complete, with lot of details and keep them interesting.
So question is, how you keep your tracks interesting (for example jump-up style d'n'b), how often in song you change something with main synth? With that you start first, when create your tune and how you build it up till it's finished?




Tbh..there's not definite "formula" for a tune...just go with what ya feel as you're workin' on the tune. Listen to tunes often and feed off of them as to ideas and structure of tracks that you would like to work with, etc..it just boils down to what makes you happy with the finished product. Don't stress makin' everyone happy, because not everyone likes the same sound. Just flow with it bro..pz & respect

Also just started with producing. I would recommend u taking a look at reasonstation.net. There u can download whole song arrangments as rns/rps files. Gives u good overview, how advanced producers layer their kicks, snares etc. and effecting it.
u can use whole Reason stuff in Ableton by rewiring it, ableton will record it as audio traces. Works pretty nice. Maybe this is a good choice to make ur dnb lines with Reason, chopping and slicing breaks in Dr.Rex or using many DnB refills and making tunes with vsti in Ableton.
Here is a nice link to a whole song and single Breaks to download and play around with in Reason. Helped me a lot
http://www.simonv.com/tutorials/
Asking for some nice dnb i have to recommend u
LTJ Bukem - Logical Progression I, just timeless, Metalheadz, Goldie Saturn Returns, u instantly will get addicted
@areor
first impression i think is most important in music, i will rather concentrate on finding/creating 2 or 3 good harmonizing sounds, put in few traces in a sequencer and develop a basic bounding tune, already now ur song should sound interesting. Dont overrate details and effects to much.
Hear some classical music, piano solos for example, u get a good feeling how interesting tunes are developing on tone scales and velocity changes.
Thanks everyone! Any softsynths or vst's that you guys recommend for me.


i use ableton live 7 for all my production matey.... ther are samples and loops all oveer the place that u can use for if u just wanna get to grips with the software before you really start to think about ur tunes...
look on www.looperman.com for some loops u can just have a furkle around live with...
if u decide to use live and u reali get stuck man just message me and ill try and help u out
If your down with drum and bass, show some proof, raise the roof!
www.myspace.com/missiontothemoonrave



i would certainly agree with most everything on here. on a more basic level, there are a few things i think are important. first, listen to tons and tons of dnb to get a feel for the sequencing/phrasing/timing of dnb. second, decide how you want to approach your tracks. i know a lot of guys like to start with beats, but i like to just throw a kick and snare together (or just a real basic break sample) and try to dial in a synth or bass hook. i find the drums go faster that way, as it is really easy to hear if they fit if the main hook is already rolling.
the only other thing i can think (that i wish i was told from the beginning) is that your drums need about 500 times the amount of layers that you THINK they need. by this i mean, get a beat rolling, and add to it until you think it sounds full. then add several more layers. trust me.
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No one here mentioned Concord Dawn?
Tisk tisk!!
Ludvista, you already have the right tools to start.
If I were you, I would open up some rex files and listen to the DnB rex's. Those helped me a lot to get an idea of what DnB should sound like, roughly.
Also, LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN to DnB. I listen to DnB everyday, on the way to work, on the way back, during work, at night.... Your mind starts to think that way and you start to get accustomed to that style of music.
Practice, experiment. Don't be afraid of sounds, use them, ANY SOUND.
Some people think that certain sounds should go into certain songs etc... A myth, in actuality, some of the best songs used new sounds or sounds that were never used in that genre. Just experiment.
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