DIRTY BASSLINES EXCHANGE THREAD + HOW2!

[kamaha]

I found kontact 3 wasn't as good as no2 any one know what I mean?

what's this no2 ?.

[JamesZero]

what's this no2 ?.

He means kontact 3 wasn't as good as kontact 2

[dolphinslovejaz]

Hey guys, I'm new on these forums, but I just wanted to leave a message on this thread saying thanks to everyone who contributed, I found pretty much every post on this thing really usefull.

So thanks guys.

[RevTech]

To add a bit, get 3x osc, 2 sqaure waves, one 1 cent lower than the other and invert the lower one. Distort it, add a tube and all then play a low note then

[omowglio]

Ill post a sample of my reece bass tommorrow but i tend to work in reason because my computers shit (savin 4 a new one and cubase)

but i rekon that what ever i do in reason should be fairly straight forward in massive or any otehr device so hear it goes.

initiate the patch in thor make three or two oscillators that are all active and detune two of them in oppisite direction from the centre so for me i have one at plus 18 and one minus 18. on the third osc i tune it the same but eitehr an octave up or down. this covers more of a spectrum of the eq range. after that ajust the envelopes so that it is fully sustaining. no attack or res but full on the decay and sustain. this makes it an open reece. add a notch filter for a lower frequency about 350-400 hertz with about 10 to on the resolution nob. and if there is a bias nob between HP and LP filtering have that nearer the low pass. this osc needs to have a fair amount of drive this is where the bass is.

at this point apply an LFO to the filter frequency and adjust the input to about half. this will give it a slight wobble.

add another notch filter biased to a high pass filter at about 1.000-1.200 hertz this gives a slight mid drop which can be good depending on what kind of sound you rae going for.

with this write a lower octave long continuos note in your sequencer and listen. it will not sound much by this point. apply a tube or warm distortion with slight compression, aand believe me with reeces lighter overdriven sounds you will get 10 times more impact. DO NOT LET THE DISTORTION EFFECT THE EQ

after this apply an eq insert or vst and minus around 9 db at 600 hertz and apply positive 9db at 1000 hertz this should look like a sine wave on your eq

add unison or chorus to taste but do not use it 2 wet or it takes the impact out.

add a stereo imager that makes all the bass mono and the highs mono with the crossover frequency on about the middle

in some cases i will apply an automated band bass filter which really gives some kik to the reece or in other cases i might re distort the reece later down the line to give it more life this is usuallt to the end od the line

i find that the trick is to use a seperate synth for the reece and cut it off around 100 hertz and let the sub bass deal with the bottom low end otehrwise the reece does not sound as tight and becomes more muddy and you have no room in your mix, and also try adding comb filters or ladder filters use only little amounts of drive behind them creates sum big impact.

ill pm anyone my sounds or print screens would be easier just pm me and ill send them over msn because i cannot be bothered with download thing majigs

sorry bout spellin and stuff but i got work in 4 hours and its 1-30

hope it helped

[Dave Dexcell]

Ill post a sample of my reece bass tommorrow but i tend to work in reason because my computers shit (savin 4 a new one and cubase)

but i rekon that what ever i do in reason should be fairly straight forward in massive or any otehr device so hear it goes.

initiate the patch in thor make three or two oscillators that are all active and detune two of them in oppisite direction from the centre so for me i have one at plus 18 and one minus 18. on the third osc i tune it the same but eitehr an octave up or down. this covers more of a spectrum of the eq range. after that ajust the envelopes so that it is fully sustaining. no attack or res but full on the decay and sustain. this makes it an open reece. add a notch filter for a lower frequency about 350-400 hertz with about 10 to on the resolution nob. and if there is a bias nob between HP and LP filtering have that nearer the low pass. this osc needs to have a fair amount of drive this is where the bass is.

at this point apply an LFO to the filter frequency and adjust the input to about half. this will give it a slight wobble.

add another notch filter biased to a high pass filter at about 1.000-1.200 hertz this gives a slight mid drop which can be good depending on what kind of sound you rae going for.

with this write a lower octave long continuos note in your sequencer and listen. it will not sound much by this point. apply a tube or warm distortion with slight compression, aand believe me with reeces lighter overdriven sounds you will get 10 times more impact. DO NOT LET THE DISTORTION EFFECT THE EQ

after this apply an eq insert or vst and minus around 9 db at 600 hertz and apply positive 9db at 1000 hertz this should look like a sine wave on your eq

add unison or chorus to taste but do not use it 2 wet or it takes the impact out.

add a stereo imager that makes all the bass mono and the highs mono with the crossover frequency on about the middle

in some cases i will apply an automated band bass filter which really gives some kik to the reece or in other cases i might re distort the reece later down the line to give it more life this is usuallt to the end od the line

i find that the trick is to use a seperate synth for the reece and cut it off around 100 hertz and let the sub bass deal with the bottom low end otehrwise the reece does not sound as tight and becomes more muddy and you have no room in your mix, and also try adding comb filters or ladder filters use only little amounts of drive behind them creates sum big impact.

ill pm anyone my sounds or print screens would be easier just pm me and ill send them over msn because i cannot be bothered with download thing majigs

sorry bout spellin and stuff but i got work in 4 hours and its 1-30

hope it helped

Nice1 mate

[RevTech]

http://www.filefront.com/14040329/basslinetutorial.zip

My basslines there

[kleo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8HlwYIo020

0:45 >

Im in love with does kind of basslines :p how can i create similar bass?

[RevTech]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8HlwYIo020

0:45 >

Im in love with does kind of basslines :p how can i create similar bass?

usually called a noisia or spor bass.

should be around the forum, go use the search button

[jbomba]

Man this took me ages to do lol!

Right here goes :

This is a bassline from one of my tunes done about a year ago, theres a 320 of the tune and a clip of the bass, ive used it very little in the tune, even tho i went thru quite a long process to make it lol always the way!
Also its more a highend added noise that accompanies the bass than the main part of the tune?

Now im not sayin this is amazing and im constantly learning so i may of done a few things wrong an gone a lil over the top with fx an wat not, but u can take or leave wat i say, on this occasion it worked out an its all been done from scratch which is the most important thing!!!!!! Trial an error!

For this you will need Frutiy loops 6or 8 this was done on 6 but ive upgraded since, massive vst to make a standard square/saw (wt- postion was in the middle of the squ-sw1setting) wave with no fx no boosts or anything. Export it as c3 then stick it in kontakt2
If you dont have these then follow the methods with your own bass and u may end up with much better results???
I also used vsts like the filtervst tube screamer, ohm boys delay, univibe, the waves reverb and c1 compression.
If u have alternatives to these use them.

Right im going to try explain this as best i can giving exact details to the positioning of knobs, numbers etc, if any 1 has any queries in what i have said mention it so i can edit the post cause if u dont get it some1 else wont??
Anyway here goes!

Fist off open up fruity add kontakt and load the sample of the squ saw in, add some saturation to the group fx only a little set at *16.8
Next put a tube distortion set at *25.0
Then put a band pass filter with the resonace at *16.8
Then a low pass 6 filter set at *3.7k and the reso at *16.8
On the insert effects add a chorus Depth *63.0, Speed *0.85, Phase at *62.0 with the wet turned down slightly
Also on the insert fx's is another tube distortion with the drive set at *35.8
And a Phaser Depth *50.0 Speed *0.85 Phase *45.0 Feedback *25.0

Ive added a modulator to the tune (pitch) which was an envelope ahdsr its on full whack with the curve set at *-33.2 Attack is on *143.5 and hold n sustain are set to 0 with the decay at *2.1 an release *6.3 while were there the volume envelope is default apart from the release which is set to *90.3

Right after u got that done set a midi link to the cutoff of the band pass filter.......
[To do this click on auto>host automation an drag an drop any of the cc numbers that arent in use to the cutoff knob it should then sat cutoff next to the number ur on remember the number set the port on kontakt to 0 then add a midi out channel to fruity go to the first knob right click configure type a name in the short name bit call it cf or watever then change the controller # to the same number as the one you chose in kontakt hit accept an then right click the knob an automate in piano roll or if u prefer to, creat an automation clip. i did the exact same thing again but with the pitch so repeat the process but add a cc to the tune knob instead.]

Right now for the hard/ looking back on it quite unnecessary part which is a waste of cpu lol but here goes :

Send kontackt to a free fx channel in fruty add the filter vst to the first free channel an turn the mix of it down slightly. Put the setting 6 on which is makin the filters work in series instead of parallel make the first filter a notch pass with the cutt off set at *943khz an the reso at 0 with poles set to 8, second filter turn on an set to high pass cut off set at *177 and resonance at 3% an 4pole. turn on sources 1 and 2 make 1 lfo1, amount +45 and dest, F1 frequency.
Set source 2 to lfo2 +66 an on F2 frequency leave everything default on lfo's 1 and 2 this is just adding some more dynamics, bit minor but helps all in all.

Back to the the fx set number 2 as a tube screamer if u have it, its a type of distortion. Have the gain at *5.984251 tone *5.0393370 level *8.188976
Then add the waves c1 compressor its seems to give it a click/crunch to the beggining of the hits. The make up is set to *16.1 threshhold is *-27.9 ration is *12.85:1 attack n release are default.

Okay now take the fx channel out of the master an link it to another fx this was done about a year ago so i dont see why i done this but im giving u the exact way how to recreate this noise.
Add a waves reverb to the first fx channel, change the reverb type to hall 1 take the low end out of the reverb eq and reverb dampning raise the high end slightly in reverb dammpning. Wet/dry at *100 early ref at *-2.0 Size at *65.7 and time at *1.10 everything else i havent mentioned stays default. (if u have another kind of reverb all i have done is make the high end come out more and sound quite distant. So try to recreat that in watever other program u have.

Second fx is the ohm boys delay with the mix slightly down, have it set to high pass *947.4hz have the amp of the lfo turned up to *44.00 and the per set to *8. turnt he feedback to *51.9 set the delay time to *2beat. have the master lvl turned down slightly an click on the pan and turn the amp up *34.22 an per 1.
This is basically just having it delay at a 2beat rate and filtering out while panning slightly left n right.

Last but not least another waves c1 compression to bring out the delay and reverb alot more in the mix. Have the makeup at *0.9 threshhold at -6 ratio *7.39:1 and attack n release are default again.

Thats the end of this incredibly long and pretty pointless tutorial seeing as the noise isnt that amazing lol but its the process of gettin there that counts!! Hope this is useful to some peeps an i hope you all share more of ur tips an ideas on makin more neuro bass.

Remember its all about the stinkface!

I have to say a special thanks to Polygon/Gravity without him i still think i would be using presets and samples! Safe for helpin me out over the last year and seeing the light!! Big Up an mad Restekpa!!!

*****These are my own personal settings which i made to fit the tune i was doing, obviously u can change an tamper with any of these to make it mold better for your own tune.

very very cool track youve got goin there

[RevTech]

http://www.filefront.com/14291787/MA...ECETATILLA.wav

exact how to with pictures coming up. if you want it faster and more detailed, pressure me haha

[RevTech]

For the osc on z3ta+

first one is saw 3, normal, then saw 2 +1 octave, then -1 octave.

for the -1 octave, on wave shaper, halfway lowpass it and make it have a bit of a wave curve, on the +1 octave one, high pass it halfway and self sync it a bit

[TeeHaichCee]

Greetings feloow dnb nuttahs :P


I'll be really nice,

Linked below is a RAR file containing no less than 15 custom dirty basses. All are my own creation

NI Massive is required.

Check out my tunes while your at it :P
http://soundcloud.com/teehaichcee
http://totalharmoniccontrol.newgrounds.com
http://www.myspace.com/totalharmoniccontrol

I have hundreds more bass patches for massive / circle / surge (my 3 favourite synths)

Have fun!

http://thc.somatika.net/MSV/MassiveBAZZ.rar

Post links to what you've made using them... and a thanks would be nice if you do use them

[axeld93]

Can anyone tell me how to make the bass in Morning Light by Concord Dawn? Sorry this computer is a piece of shit and doesn't load YouTube... but if you don't have the track I'm sure you can find it on there. It comes in just after 1:20.

Cheers,
axeld93

[logikz]

its a reece with portamento from flp. this threadll basically tell you all about it, but in a nutshell,

1. 3xosc detune saw waves a few cent
2. distort, split into high and low
3. activate portamento