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Mango-
05-05-2010, 14:38
What are the most commonly used scales in dnb and jungle?

moriaty
05-05-2010, 14:42
not as much scales, but most seem to have the tonic on F to G#

Mango-
05-05-2010, 14:50
not as much scales, but most seem to have the tonic on F to G#
Ohhh really , i keep hearing different things .i read in a book that minor
scales are good. Tonic is same as root? Or not?

moriaty
05-05-2010, 15:26
ye, tonic = root.
there's no good or bad scale, just different.

Quartus
05-05-2010, 15:28
Never heard a DnB Track in B Flat mixolydian mode ;)

Innovine
05-05-2010, 15:54
dont worry about scales and modes. most dnb artists are uneducated teenagers in their bedroom with a cracked copy of reason, so any old collection of notes are acceptable

Scatcat
05-05-2010, 16:10
A lot of house djs say that using a minor key "can make a sweeter vocal line" or make it more "plaintive" whatever that means. But tbh, fuck them ^-what he said

Quartus
05-05-2010, 16:18
I rarly use major scales, because the music I prefer to do is dark and scary.

Even when you think a track sounds major (happy) it can be minor, like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AbRqTwf9Pc

Mango-
05-05-2010, 16:47
I have been trying to make some authentic style jungle. so I need to know what scales to use.
for the authentic chord pad sound.

Freek
05-05-2010, 17:17
dont worry about scales and modes. most dnb artists are uneducated teenagers in their bedroom with a cracked copy of reason, so any old collection of notes are acceptable

lol! are u serious mate

funkmod
05-05-2010, 17:20
i dont know anything about notes or scales im completely useless in this thread :(

Mango-
05-05-2010, 17:29
I have made the perfect pad.
now all I need is the perfect combination of notes

moriaty
05-05-2010, 17:39
really, there arent that many notes in western music, just 12. mash em about until it sounds right, and do a simplified version for your bass. pop tune done (Y)

dnbsoldier87
05-05-2010, 17:46
just listen to it, no set notes that you must use for drum and bass, find a note you like and go from there surely? Its meant to be creative

Mango-
05-05-2010, 18:29
I want to learn properly

Cat Gas
05-05-2010, 18:31
dont worry about scales and modes. most dnb artists are uneducated teenagers in their bedroom with a cracked copy of reason, so any old collection of notes are acceptable

Wait what.


But forget scales, just do what sounds good.

Mango-
05-05-2010, 18:42
ok but lets say I want to know what scales are used

Scatcat
05-05-2010, 18:43
get a book, take a class, youtube, search google, ask a person who plays a real instrument like piano/guitar/clarinet etc, trial & error (fuck around on a keyboard), find a riff you really like learn to replicate it then alter it (rinse repeat), listen to loads of jungle (that's what ur making right?), ude your imagination, if all of that fails you suck - stop trying

Innovine
05-05-2010, 18:49
lol! are u serious mate

No, not really. I was only joking. They actually use fruityloops.

Freek
05-05-2010, 18:52
No, not really. I was only joking. They actually use fruityloops.

I was being sarcastic mate, do u produce?

kama
05-05-2010, 18:58
If you're a newbie to music theory I'd suggest to keep with either C major or A minor. They are the easiest, since they utilize the white keys. You can transpose afterwards if need be.

Again, there are no set scales used in dnb, jungle or not. In fact, some dnb doesn't even use distinguishable notes, let alone scales...

Just start with a chord that sounds good and go from there, just see how it sounds the best.

Scatcat
05-05-2010, 19:03
If you're a newbie to music theory I'd suggest to keep with either C major or A minor. They are the easiest, since they utilize the white keys. You can transpose afterwards if need be.

Again, there are no set scales used in dnb, jungle or not. In fact, some dnb doesn't even use distinguishable notes, let alone scales...

Just start with a chord that sounds good and go from there, just see how it sounds the best.

^-what he said

Innovine
05-05-2010, 19:39
I was being sarcastic mate, do u produce?

me too. I play drums and sometimes make basslines and loops

Freek
05-05-2010, 19:42
me too. I play drums and sometimes make basslines and loops

Lol, i saw that post and my guards went up lol.

Mango-
05-05-2010, 23:00
Cheers guys for all the replies. :)

H*product
06-05-2010, 00:26
if you wanna make a standard jungle pad try re-sampling the chord and playingit up and down the keyboard. thats how the pad in this tune was made, have a listen:

http://soundcloud.com/charlesheavyweight/charlie-bronson-and-chemical-oli-rockstars-jigsaw-clip

Quartus
06-05-2010, 00:42
This seems to be a bit kiddish, but if you need a few basics, try out this site: http://www.musictheory.net/

There are tons of basic music theory books. If you want to do that advanced try out some jazz books.

Probably someone wants to produce jazzy DnB :D