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I'm from the DOA board. I see a few ppl here from there. I have no idea what here is. Destiny ICQed me this link. Heck I don't even know what this forum is affiliated with (other then "drum and bass"). Anyway I hope the vibe on this board is nice (unlike DSC14ST) and that you will all welcome me.
If no one objects I'll post my mix of the week on this board as well.
Take care,
Steve
To the nine to the teen to the nine to the ty to the two!!!!!!!
Big ups Souljah, stay crazy:D
Welcome 1992 :D
Feel free to post your mixes :)
Ello mate.
Just one thing, do you think you could stop linking to that huge graphic in every one of your posts.
I'm sure I speak for the rest of the 56k users on here in making that request...
cheers!
-walrus
Big up 1992, welcome to dnbforum.
Why is the DSci14 vibe so bad?
Ello mate.
Just one thing, do you think you could stop linking to that huge graphic in every one of your posts.
I'm sure I speak for the rest of the 56k users on here in making that request...
cheers!
-walrus
My internet connection speed is 38,400 bps, slower then yours even!
Big up 1992, welcome to dnbforum.
Why is the DSci14 vibe so bad?
Trace feels the need to throw profanity at me and kick me from the board because I post my ravey mixes. I also denounced 1997 tech step, thats not allowed on the trace message board. That board is so cold I feel I've already visited Alaska.
Thats my claim to fame I guess, Trace calls me "fuck off cunt" :rolleyes: Well I'll tell yah, I certainly won't be buying Trace records anymore, I'll probably even sell my "Sonar" record on ebay for some piss take price even :D
I'll probably even sell my "Sonar" record on ebay for some piss take price even :D
What mix of Sonar? I got the original and remix, both on Prototype. They worth something then? :D
I know there was another remix that I've not seen released.
hey man and welcome.
trace? as in trace? tramen trace?
that cant be no fun.
1992 .... why 1992? Is that because it's the era of music you like?
It can't be because you were going out at that time because there was no rave scene in the US then right?
I'm not being moody here - I was just wondering thats all.
Actually on that note - who was going out in 1992?
How long hav all you lot been raving for?
I went to my first rave at the end of '89 but started full-time in 1990 ...... 12 years later and I'm still going stong! BOH! :D
Was listening to the music from 1990 onwards, bought my first mixtape in 92(Total Kaos - Darkness, Slipmatt & Revcore). Only ever been to 2 hardcore raves which were late 90's, but have been to loads of D&B nights.
Oh, and here is the aforementioned tape in all its glory :)
http://breakpirates.com/images/totalkaos.jpg
Been into the music since end of 97/start of 98. Went to my first rave in July 2000 (Raindance Solstice @ The Drome).
I'm 17 btw.
-walrus
HE HE!! I am a pensioner!! Fuckin veteran - you boys are making me feel old!! LOL!!
My first rave was in the caves @ Fort Amerhust in Chatham (can't remeber what it was called) but in my time I've been to ...
Reincarnation, Phase Two, Distortion, World Dance, Jungle Fever, Desire, Heat, A.W.O.L., Roast, One Nation the list is endless so I wont go on!
Met some cool people from going out as well - most of us are still mates now!
Making u feel old? how old are ya then? I'm 25.
Making u feel old? how old are ya then? I'm 25.
*cough* old man ;)
I'll be 27 this year! Shocker! LOL!! :( :D ;)
Was listening to the music from 1990 onwards, bought my first mixtape in 92(Total Kaos - Darkness, Slipmatt & Revcore). Only ever been to 2 hardcore raves which were late 90's, but have been to loads of D&B nights.
Oh, and here is the aforementioned tape in all its glory :)
http://breakpirates.com/images/totalkaos.jpg
Got to love them old tape packs!! I've got a few old 'ardcore tapes at home myself!
... Get a rush get a move on! ...
I still have a couple of my total kaos t-shirts lol
I got into the old skool scene in late 92 early 93, had access to decks since 93, my brother got them, then i bought them off him eventually (1210's)
then from 95-98 i was mixing house and speed garage
then July last year I met Destiny, he showed me the light of drum n bass lol and I got back on the decks again after 3 years
I've lost alot of my tapes, still got Dreamscape II (Seduction) still one of my favourite ever sets, couple of Fantazia ones, a Dreamscape 4 tape (ratty and carl cox) and a big folder full of flyers from 92-94
How funny is it the things we keep? I have honestly kept every single flyer I have ever picked up over the last 12 years! I have about 4 trainer boxes full and a few folders!
I've kept magazines (like Ravescene, Knowledge, Breakin' Point etc).
Got loads of old tapes from Ratpack, Stu Allen, Rider, Slipmatt, Coolbreeze & Mc Ruch, Alex Hazzard!
Funny really - too many good memories to throw away though!
:D
Hey - once I went to the Reinforced studios and that was like heaven! Met Mark and Dego from 4Hero ... it was so cool! Got given loads of free tunes and saw a track getting made!
Excellent stuff! :)
So how about getting a few of those tapes encoded up as RealAudio? I could sort you out with a few that I've done including the one in the pic which is wicked, and some old Fresh FM stuff.
Cost me £7 for that one I think! Back when I was earning £3 a week for my paper round, haha, those were the days ;)
Got to love them old tape packs!! I've got a few old 'ardcore tapes at home myself!
... Get a rush get a move on! ...
So how about getting a few of those tapes encoded up as RealAudio? I could sort you out with a few that I've done including the one in the pic which is wicked, and some old Fresh FM stuff.
That is actually not a bad idea - got to sort out me PC to get it all rigged up to encode but I'd be into that.
Who else is up for sharing a bit of history??
I could post up some proper old tunes as well!! :cool:
3 quid for yer paper round baaaah
i was earning £7.50 for mon to sat 6-7am and then £8 a week for another shop 7am-8am mon to sat
and I used to nick bottles of fresh orange juice from the doorsteps..i dont like milk ;)
sorry about the threadjack lol
me and Dest were talking about encoding a Green Apple tape, i'll ask him again when he wakes up..excellent tapes
Why is it that back then even though you had less money it went further???
I was in the same boat - earnt a pittance but somehow I managed to buy records, go raving and smoke myself to death.
2 weeks after pay-day now and I'm skint! LOL! :confused:
I used to deliver the freebie local papers, hence the crap pay. Saying that, you had 3 days to deliver them whenever you liked and at a push could get them all done in one night :)
One of the first things I ever bought was the sampler for my Amiga. It was £30 so it took me about 10 weeks to save up for! heheh.
3 quid for yer paper round baaaah
i was earning £7.50 for mon to sat 6-7am and then £8 a week for another shop 7am-8am mon to sat
and I used to nick bottles of fresh orange juice from the doorsteps..i dont like milk ;)
sorry about the threadjack lol
me and Dest were talking about encoding a Green Apple tape, i'll ask him again when he wakes up..excellent tapes
Tell me about it...you used to get 2 Mojos for a penny! ;)
Why is it that back then even though you had less money it went further???
I was in the same boat - earnt a pittance but somehow I managed to buy records, go raving and smoke myself to death.
2 weeks after pay-day now and I'm skint! LOL! :confused:
I used to deliver the freebie local papers, hence the crap pay. Saying that, you had 3 days to deliver them whenever you liked and at a push could get them all done in one night :)
One of the first things I ever bought was the sampler for my Amiga. It was £30 so it took me about 10 weeks to save up for! heheh.
I used to have an Atari - Miner 2049er, Donkey Kong, block graphics, loading games in ON TAPE (LOL), spending a whole weekend writing code from a computer magazine to create a game which never worked (remember that one!) .... oh those were the days!
Anyone remember those Elevation flyers which started of the craze of having shots of the crowd as the graphic element? They were full on A3 jobs - the first one was shot at Reincarnation in Herne bay - loads of me mates are on it, I never quite made it into the shot though. :(
Also does anyone remember the Channel 4 programme "All Junglists : A London Some'ting Dis"?
Mate that was quality! I got it on video at home. BOH! :D
If you could get some of those old tapes encoded, that would be wicked! :)
-walrus
You got no old skool tapes then mate?
Nostalgia crew is fast heading for the most views and responses! ;)
I was too much of an armchair raver for all of that ;)
Anyone remember those Elevation flyers which started of the craze of having shots of the crowd as the graphic element? They were full on A3 jobs - the first one was shot at Reincarnation in Herne bay - loads of me mates are on it, I never quite made it into the shot though. :([/B]
I was too much of an armchair raver for all of that ;)
LOL - Armchair raver ... LOL!!
Early nights, slippers, mugs of hot choclate and big spliffs!!
;)
I never been to a rave
im a true armchair raver lol
MY GOD ...... A VIRGIN! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! :eek:
MY GOD ...... A VIRGIN!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Shock horror,
you don't get many of those to a pound these days.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Shock horror,
you don't get many of those to a pound these days.
LOL :D
yes yes yes, im a raver virgin :D LOL
I go to events Dest plays at, thats as far as it goes hehe
being a mum and all that made it difficult, but im still a dedicated basshead ;)
yes yes yes, im a raver virgin :D LOL
I go to events Dest plays at, thats as far as it goes hehe
being a mum and all that made it difficult, but im still a dedicated basshead ;)
I hear dRiFT offers babysitting services at competitive prices?! ;)
sounds good to me, aslong as he doesnt bring her back :D
rofl, jk
just keep her till shes gone thru teenage years and i'll have her back ;)
She'll be returned as a full on junglist!! LOL!! :D
I hear dRiFT offers babysitting services at competitive prices?! ;)
and he's fluent in Swedish.
*hides*
What more could you ask for?.
Watch it sunny-jim, do u want another phone call? ;)
Watch it sunny-jim, do u want another phone call? ;)
No, not really.
I would like to know what the plan is for Thursday nights though if you have made any progress with that yet. My computer that the courier "lost" is getting sent here today (still not here at 5.00pm so its not looking too good) so I may (note "may") even start streaming from here soon (thats if it works this time round of course).
Speak soon.
Sorry mate I lost your email along with everything else in my mailbox. The Thursday thing is a no-goer unless someone takes over control of that night. I really don't have the time to do that one as well. BUT if someone does then I'm sure a regular slot could be sorted. Otherwise the 8-9pm on a Monday has just become free, or you could possibly do 8-9pm Tuesdays. There's plenty of possibilities depending on when you're available.
I'll be on IRC most nights now, so nip on if you wanna discuss.
Wow, I'm shocked to see this thread still on top. Its changed into something completely different.
I like the idea of writing code for a video game from a magazine. That sounded like fun even if it didn't work as planed.
Sorry mate I lost your email along with everything else in my mailbox. The Thursday thing is a no-goer unless someone takes over control of that night. I really don't have the time to do that one as well. BUT if someone does then I'm sure a regular slot could be sorted. Otherwise the 8-9pm on a Monday has just become free, or you could possibly do 8-9pm Tuesdays. There's plenty of possibilities depending on when you're available.
I'll be on IRC most nights now, so nip on if you wanna discuss.
Im just waiting to see what state my pc comes back in. I'll be in touch when I know )if it ever comes back).
Wow, I'm shocked to see this thread still on top. Its changed into something completely different.
I like the idea of writing code for a video game from a magazine. That sounded like fun even if it didn't work as planed.
Trust me - it was no fun what so ever!! After all that typing it never worked ..... RUBBISH!!
Anyway - back to the original question ..... why 1992?
LOL! :D
Ya had a chance to look at those logos 2bad? :D
Not yet mate - I'm hoping to finish off special K's site this month and then I will get on the case.
How many do you want?? Just a couple??
I take it you want something along the lines of those b-boy culture prints I did??
Can you get me the font for the 31 Seconds graphic or the logo itself??
I used to get my dad to type all those in for me back in the old speccy days. Quite a few did work, but it was pretty annoying when they didnt. Also when you lost all your code and had to start again. Tape storage is great :)
I just mistyped a variable called $totalcount which ended up being called $totalcunt..would have laughed if that had gone up on the server and error'd on someone's screen...then again I'm not sure if management would see the funny side, heh.
Trust me - it was no fun what so ever!! After all that typing it never worked ..... RUBBISH!!
Anyway - back to the original question ..... why 1992?
LOL! :D
Go on Drift - I'd laugh if that error message come up on my screen! LOL! :D
Nah 2Bad as in Johnny 2 Bad (is a reggae song)
1992 as in?? (I really have to know this now as it has dragged on so long ... LOL!!)
si2bad (from 2 bad mice) posts on the b2vos forum - http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/
Blimey - you people chat every where .... how do you all find the time? :confused:
nice vibe nobody cussing people posting long messages bright colors yeah thats nice. But... There is at least a million posts about how tech isnt good and the oldskool was and is the best and the retro thing is the salvation of the scene and... i mean shit, amens?
i dont know man that place freaks me out.
They can keep their white gloves and glow sticks to them selves .... YES the old skool was good but YES the scene is good now.
I still listen to stuff now like Moving Shadow 004 (2 Bad Mice - 2 Bad Mice / No Respect), old Sub Base Tunes, old Tone Def stuff and I still really like those tracks but you can't compare it to todays music ... which obs I also listen to!
Even though D&B has evolved from what was going on then it is essentially a different music now - it's roots are in the same place, it's just the leaves and branches have grown to cover a wider area, absorb more influences and technology and so the end result will reflect that ... the scene alongside the music moves on ... you get me?
Oh I don't know ... I'd say happy hardcore was the worse thing to happen to the scene (sorry Stuuu - I know you are trying to banish those distant memories by flogging your dodgy Dougal and Vibes collection ! LOL!!). Had to get that dig in ... LOL!! ;)
It's all progress I guess - you either keep up with it or you fall by the way side and end up listening to garage, wearing white slip on shoes and bigging up people who are stealing ideas the D&B people used years back!
Thats my $5 worth there I think! I'll shut up now! :rolleyes:
Nah 2Bad as in Johnny 2 Bad (is a reggae song)
1992 as in?? (I really have to know this now as it has dragged on so long ... LOL!!)
1992 as in why not call myself 1992 as just about every sentence I write no matter what the topic ends up having the number 1992 in it. I got funny comments about this on the DnB Arena message list last spring ;) At first ppl were thinking I was someones alter-ego on DOA because I was a parody of my own self, saying 1992 this and 1992 that. Either you love me or you hate me, even better maybe you want to date me :D
They can keep their white gloves and glow sticks to them selves .... YES the old skool was good but YES the scene is good now.
I still listen to stuff now like Moving Shadow 004 (2 Bad Mice - 2 Bad Mice / No Respect), old Sub Base Tunes, old Tone Def stuff and I still really like those tracks but you can't compare it to todays music ... *snip*[/b]
Because todays music isn't as good as the 1992.
*Snip*
Oh I don't know ... I'd say happy hardcore was the worse thing to happen to the scene (sorry Stuuu - I know you are trying to banish those distant memories by flogging your dodgy Dougal and Vibes collection ! LOL!!). Had to get that dig in ... LOL!! ;)
No Happyhardcore was pure quality untill Scott Brown's "Now is the time" and Force & Styles came in to the picture. It went downhill fast, plunging head on into crappy music. You've got to respect the Happyhardcore 1993-1996.
[b]
*snip*
Thats my worth there I think! I'll shut up now! :rolleyes:
For a guy whos name is "2 Bad Mice" you sure seem to hate the golden age of dance music.
:rolleyes:
For a guy whos name is "2 Bad Mice" you sure seem to hate the golden age of dance music.
:rolleyes:
Learn to read - my name is not 2 Bad Mice it is 2 Bad, I have never claimed to name myself after 2 Bad Mice (who I have actually met!) and seeing as I hate that era of music so much how come that's when I was going out?? From 1990 onwards? How come I spent so much money on records from that era?? How come I still listen to that music now?? How come I made myself skint for years buying tunes and going raving?
I never said the music from those days was shit I said it is totally different to what is is now. There is no way you can say the music back then was better because it has over the years transformed itself into something else which is what has kept the scene alive .... constant evolution .... keeping fresh and at the forefront of the British dance scene!
Also how can the older music be better in terms of prodution and stuff when technology has advanced the music so far??
The old music is "classic" and still in my books good to listen to, bringing back loads of memories. The music now is quality and I hope it continues to be for a very long time.
Mate - don't start me off, America never had a 1990, '91 or '92 in terms of rave so you can't start cussing me for something which you weren't "technically speaking" involved in.
Do you see me going on about how hip-hop block parties were the greatest and how new rappers and the hip-hop scene now is all rubbish? No - I wasn't there so I can't comment (but I am into hip-hop as well so don't say I know shit about that either!).
Anyway - if you think old skool is so good then why keep listening to the new stuff if you think it's pants?
as a regular on b2vos, and here, im jumping in on this one, its not an attack, just a voice of opinion :)
Originally posted by 2Bad
I never said the music from those days was shit I said it is totally different to what is is now.
I agree there
There is no way you can say the music back then was better because it has over the years transformed itself into something else which is what has kept the scene alive ....
But Im gonna have to disagree there, I too prefer the older stuff, to me, its better, i'd rather listen to 95-98 DnB over the new stuff, like you said to 1992, im not saying its shit, its merely what I prefer
what defines music as better than X or Y is all on personal opinion, you could get a Garage follower coming on here saying how its sooooo much better than DnB, in their mind it is, in ours, obviously not, it doesnt mean we're right, or we're wrong, its all based on opinion what is better or not
Also how can the older music be better in terms of prodution and stuff when technology has advanced the music so far??
Talking on old skool hardcore, new technology is IMO to blame for some of the wank lets call it 'nu-skool' that is coming out, it aint got that 1992 (or 91, or 93 for that matter lol) vibe to it, because, its being written on more advanced technology, the old skool has a certain touch, that new technology today just cant seem to replicate, for me personally, its just not the same vibe
But Im gonna have to disagree there, I too prefer the older stuff, to me, its better, i'd rather listen to 95-98 DnB over the new stuff, like you said to 1992, im not saying its shit, its merely what I prefer
basically you can compare apples and oranges too and youre perfectly free to think which ever is better but fact remains youre still comparing apples and oranges.
just not the same is it. And the supply of oldskool tunes is limited where as the modern dnb (and nu skool) definitely isnt. Means itsa dying form and soon the only way to discover it will be through modern dnb -> checking the history of the music.
like 2bad said, oldskool is classic material and i wouldnt diss it for the world. But its got nothing on the modern sound.
besides the modern sound what ever that is is so diverse right now that it cant be definded by one sound.
...which oldskool can in two words, amen and sub. Ive got loads of oldskool jungle compilations, almost 9 hours worth of playtime and its fun to listen to and all that. Isnt very intelligent music tho.
If you all take a real deep dive im sure that youll find at least one tune or one artists (or even a whole style, who knows) somewhere to tickle your fancy.
thats what i think anyway.
if theres any grammar you dont agree with i appologize, im a little drunk, gonna head on down to the party now.
Originally posted by logikz
basically you can compare apples and oranges too and youre perfectly free to think which ever is better but fact remains youre still comparing apples and oranges.
Im comparing old drum n bass to new drum n bass, its dnb, no apples and oranges about it
if i were comparing old 70's queen songs to 90's queen songs would i be comparing apples and oranges then too?
And the supply of oldskool tunes is limited where as the modern dnb (and nu skool) definitely isnt. Means itsa dying form
wrong wrong wrong, breaming with wrongability ;)
the supply of old skool tunes is far from limited, look at ebay, when do you see new tunes auctioned apart from promo's? RARELY
I have ooh, i think about 130 odd tunes now, less than 10 are new tunes, I manage to pick up 15-20 old tunes every shopping trip
it is FAR from a dying form
like 2bad said, oldskool is classic material and i wouldnt diss it for the world. But its got nothing on the modern sound.
you have just made a prime example on my whole point, whats better depends on personal opinion, I could argue with you till someone can ice skate uphill whats the better, and we'd never agree
besides the modern sound what ever that is is so diverse right now that it cant be definded by one sound.
its defined by genre, what we're talking about, dnb, and /or old skool hardcore
...which oldskool can in two words, amen and sub. Ive got loads of oldskool jungle compilations, almost 9 hours worth of playtime and its fun to listen to and all that. Isnt very intelligent music tho.
it was intelligent for its time, look at Dread Bass, labelled a classic in the DnB scene, it was the first tune to use reversed bass...like 2bad pointed out, technology has advanced
If you all take a real deep dive im sure that youll find at least one tune or one artists (or even a whole style, who knows) somewhere to tickle your fancy.
yeh, i never said I dont like any new dnb tune out, ska is a good tune i love to play, I could also list a few more..
i'll repeat what is aid in my last post ' i think the older stuff is better, but it doesnt mean the new stuff is shit'
DJ Destiny
17-03-2002, 02:28
...which oldskool can in two words, amen and sub. Ive got loads of oldskool jungle compilations, almost 9 hours worth of playtime and its fun to listen to and all that. Isnt very intelligent music tho.
Who said it had to be intelligent? And what the fuck is "intelligent" music anyway?
Does that mean there is "thick" music too?
If anything, the limited equipment ment the tunes had ALOT more thought and originality put into them. Every tune was totally different from the next.
Where as now, 99% of all dnb that comes out is totally bland crap. Take Dillinja for example, you can all spot one of his tunes from a mile off, why? Cause its always the same tedious drums and distorted bass. Boring.
Intelligent was a term coined by the media so they could describe all the Bukem / Goodlooking / Creative Source style sounds. It's a rubbish way of describing it and I've seen plenty of interviews with people like Bukem who hate the term - the music is more intelligent ... but that ain't the right word for it.
As far as I'm concerned it's all drum and bass and that's that! Why try to pigeon hole certain styles? Thats just something the media like to do.
If anything, the limited equipment ment the tunes had ALOT more thought and originality put into them. Every tune was totally different from the next.
Where as now, 99% of all dnb that comes out is totally bland crap. Take Dillinja for example, you can all spot one of his tunes from a mile off, why? Cause its always the same tedious drums and distorted bass. Boring.
Dillinjas sound has become recognisable because he has built up a style as have many other artists .... such as Bad Company, most of the Ram crew, Photek, Alex Reece, Digital, Total Science, Calibre .... etc .... etc!
Did the tunes really have much more thought and originality back then?? I'm not so sure if that is true!! Did every tune really sound different?? I definitly think not!! Even back then people were constantly remixing and sampling each others stuff and putting it back out!
DJ Destiny
17-03-2002, 11:08
I know all about the intelligent era regarding Bukems 95 era.
But that wasnt the point. The term was being used in a different way, someone said it wasnt intelligent enough meaning it didnt have enough thought put into it.
So I was asking what it meant in that respect, nothing to do with the genre that was "intelligent" Bukem type stuff.
Dillinjas sound has become recognisable because he has built up a style as have many oter artists .... such as Bad Company, most of the Ram crew, Photek, Alex Reece, Digital, Total Science, Calibre .... etc .... etc!
I think thats the main reason I dont like most of the newer stuff, its the same artists throwing out the same style, all the time
I wanna buy tunes that are nothing like anything else, I dont wanna say 'oooh, that sounds like Dillinja' or 'oooh, that must be ram'
i wanna be able to pick up a tune and say 'fuuuuck, this is wicked, ive never never heard anything like this!'
yeah, maybe im too picky about it, but thats the feeling im with on the new stuff, same old shit, all the time
True, but when people do build up a certain style it's always cool when they surprise you with something totally off the wall!! :)
Somtimes when people do something different the masses just don't like to accept it!
When Dillinja did Nasty Ways there was this big thing about using vocals in D&B - I mean where is the problem in that?? I couldn't see one and it wasn't as if it was the first time it had been done but it seems to have been more accepted now.
Seems so funny - people are all worried when something like that happens but Shake Ur Body has vocals, a bloody video and is without a doubt going to storm the charts and nobody seems worried!
Personally I think there is another re-invention coming along anyway. Hopefully we'll go through another "dark" era to take it all back underground again! ;)
True, but when people do build up a certain style it's always cool when they surprise you with something totally off the wall!! :)
Most definately! but Im just not seeing that enough lately
When Dillinja did Nasty Ways there was this big thing about using vocals in D&B - I mean where is the problem in that?? I couldn't see one and it wasn't as if it was the first time it had been done but it seems to have been more accepted now.
Thats where the artists fuck up, they fit themselves into their own style, then find it very hard to break out of it to try something new, so the scene stays the same, and no diversity happens (or if it does, it takes a fuckin age to get it anywhere)
Seems so funny - people are all worried when something like that happens but Shake Ur Body has vocals, a bloody video and is without a doubt going to storm the charts and nobody seems worried!
Im one that aint too worried, Shake Ur Body has started to be questioned if its even DnB or not, I think some will explore the scene a bit more after hearing it, but as its quite a, dare i say "commercial" tune, I dont think DnB offers what they're looking for, and they'll soon look for something else inspiring (the next Fragma tune most likely :P )
Personally I think there is another re-invention coming along anyway. Hopefully we'll go through another "dark" era to take it all back underground again! ;)
I still think the scene is underground, everyone loves ska, its been caned everywhere, but unlike bodyrock and shake ur body, in the commercial world, its just unheard of
1 or 2 tunes breaking chart status isnt really anything to worry about, its merely their popularity that got the tunes that far, as destiny said, its only in the charts cuz so many DJ's bought the tune, it was all on sales
Shake Ur Body has been caned for what? 5-6 months?
Shy FX knew everyone was dying for it and has taken it further by making a video etc, because he knows its gonna rocket in the sales numbers, and well, hes taking advantage of it
the underground bassheads made shake ur body popular, because until recently, thats only where it was being played, at DnB nights where the tenny bopper chart junkies dont frequent
I think the scene is safe :)
I think the scene is safe :)
Oh yeah - don't get me wrong, I don't for one minute think the chart impending chart success of Shake Ur Body will ruin things but the music is getting more and more popular in terms of recent chart success ..... I'm just hoping there is gonna be another surge of really off-key stuff to "help keep it underground" for want of a better term!
I just wanna hear some real filth!! :D
everyone loves ska,
No Doubt :rolleyes:
I think it's good to .... Sassy ... we missing something here? LOL! :confused:
Ska is one of the best mixing tunes to turn up in ages - you can roll that bassline over almost anything :D
GlowGadgets.com
21-03-2002, 18:48
Now this is what I call a thread.
As for old tapes, I have boxes of the stuff, everything I recorded from Stu Allen on Key 103 .( even from Stu Allen and Chris Buckly on the "All night beat" on Piccadilly 1985). I rooted some out the other day and I was like " Oh, this is a tune" but then the next was a bit too slow, then it would be Hip Hop, some old Techno (Boy ain't that changed) to House, Garage ( we are talking Old here folks), Hardcore...All that.
Then I was travelling for a few years and in 94 . The first tape I heard was sitting by a pool in Tenerife, checkin out the talent and having to put up with some pleb playing some shite on his tinny cassete player, when some Rude boys came along with a fuckin massive Ghetto Blaster and when they pressed play I thought "What the fuck is that?" It was Kenny Ken, and Clarkee on the reverse.
When these guys got back to UK they sent me tapes of enough shit to keep me smilin for weeks.
Then got into DJ SS, Mickey Finn and Aphrodite, JJ Frost, Doc Scott, Gashe, Grooverider, Peshey etc, etc..
I had gone from being a House and Hip Hop lover to a Bass head in seconds, I still love a lot of the 94-97, but if it makes me wanto dance like a bloody maniac, its good enough for me
I just felt like a sharing moment wit ya'll.
I shall now sit quietly
:rolleyes:
I used to have tapes of Hype form Fantasy FM well before he was even known .... unfortunatly these have been borrowed, stolen and worn out :(
Got some mad ones of Nicky BMKT form back in the days on Pulse though! ;)
GlowGadgets.com
22-03-2002, 17:50
I had a really good mix that Nicky BM did on One in the Jungle a few years back, that got stolen, along with my motor:( .
They musta just wanted the tape cos my motor was wank. :D
LOL - one of the best tapes I have got is Andy C and GQ at Metalheadz ... it is well rude!! Old but rude!!
Knew someone who knew Goldie - Metalheadz tapes aren't all that common so I am well pleased with that one :)
Im comparing old drum n bass to new drum n bass, its dnb, no apples and oranges about it
if i were comparing old 70's queen songs to 90's queen songs would i be comparing apples and oranges then too?
yes, if they sounded completely and 100% different it would (like drum and bass today compared back in the day). I consider apples and organges completely different from each other dont you (hyperonym beeing fruit (dnb) and the one after that eatable (music))? and thats whats apples and oranges about it.
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And the supply of oldskool tunes is limited where as the modern dnb (and nu skool) definitely isnt. Means itsa dying form
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wrong wrong wrong, breaming with wrongability
the supply of old skool tunes is far from limited, look at ebay, when do you see new tunes auctioned apart from promo's? RARELY
I have ooh, i think about 130 odd tunes now, less than 10 are new tunes, I manage to pick up 15-20 old tunes every shopping trip
it is FAR from a dying form
no you must have misunderstood. By saying its a dying form im implying its alive and dissapearing, when its in fact not alive at all. You do realize were talking about music from TEN YEARS ago? Dead as in nobodys making it anymore, dead as in there is a limited number of records with that kind of music on however great that number may be.
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like 2bad said, oldskool is classic material and i wouldnt diss it for the world. But its got nothing on the modern sound.
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you have just made a prime example on my whole point, whats better depends on personal opinion, I could argue with you till someone can ice skate uphill whats the better, and we'd never agree
true indeed cos in the end the argument wed come down to is 'cos i think so'. So im leaving that bit.
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besides the modern sound what ever that is is so diverse right now that it cant be definded by one sound.
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its defined by genre, what we're talking about, dnb, and /or old skool hardcore
today yes which is exactly my point. Back in the day it could tho, amen and sub, and if you didnt like that you didnt like jungle as that was that. Doesnt work like that anymore at all, theres at least ten types of dnb you must hear today to be certain that you dont like it.
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...which oldskool can in two words, amen and sub. Ive got loads of oldskool jungle compilations, almost 9 hours worth of playtime and its fun to listen to and all that. Isnt very intelligent music tho.
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it was intelligent for its time, look at Dread Bass, labelled a classic in the DnB scene, it was the first tune to use reversed bass...like 2bad pointed out, technology has advanced
Dredbass is a very intelligent tune. Not knockin that one. That one is a classic for a reason. And its a very good example of how intelligent it could be. But there is a million tunes from that period with 2 looped breaks a sinus bass and a vocal sample and i dont think thats an intelligent way to make music. Simple is good but it only goes so far.
yeah its this post again sorry for bringing it up but this is a discussion forum right?
sorry for bringing it up but this is a discussion forum right?
Yes - More fire!! The 1992 post is back from the grave ... LOL! :D
Wow! Everyones still celebrating my arrival to the DnBForum with this thread. Really..... I don't know what to say. I'm flattered. :oops:
i think about you everytime i see the thread, ill admit that.
'celebrate' isnt the word tho.
i think about you everytime i see the thread, ill admit that.
'celebrate' isnt the word tho.
Bahhhh. Your just jelous. :roll:
just what this board needs right now.
go on man say something stupid so i can diss you.
we need to breathe some life into this board.
just what this board needs right now.
go on man say something stupid so i can diss you.
"I'm gonna diss you right now"
"I'm gonna diss you right now"
"I'm gonna diss / I'm gonna diss / I'm / I'm"
"I'm gonna diss you right now" "GO!" :P
i knew i could count on you but...
man i wouldnt know in which end to start.
and if you dont know jungle from sheffra to LoK you dont know shit. :twisted:
Tracking scene huh? nice...
yeah say what you will about LoK but Sheffra is beyond any and all critique. Wonder what hes doing now!!
clark kent
02-05-2002, 17:01
Another famlir face! :D
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